PTB. This has very much soured me on Blahaj Zone, unfortunately. Not a big loss for them, since I only occasionally posted there, but very saddening to me.
I’m starting to believe that instances that are primarily for one and only one subgrouping are a bad idea, because bad actors just have to put on the right group appellation and the rest of the community will go to bat for whatever malicious nonsense they’ve got in mind, because “they’re one of us!” It’s the same type of thing as separating church and state.
By far the most inclusive communities, in my experience, are the fully general-purpose instances or the regional ones. It’s just too easy for “we’re supportive for the X people” to turn into “well you’re not an X person, and the person who’s beefing with you is, so GET FUCKED from all of us.”
rare PugJesus L. everyone making this a shitshow had every opportunity to block this user, just as every other person we are annoyed with, but for some reason, no, we have to all be vocal about it.
You kind of have a point, to be honest. I started talking about this initially for well-intentioned reasons and still hold some hope that it might be lead to a better exchange of views with the blahaj folks, but it seems like almost all heat no light as of present.
thank you for understanding. please consider repeating this if you agree with it, as it’s going largely unheard
i personally don’t give a fuck if drag’s a troll or not but HOT DAMB it’s like all the reddiquette to “not feed the (apparent) trolls” we learned in our past is thrown out the window in this one specific case for some reason.
Like I said, I don’t even remember the last time I interacted with drag. The admin came out of nowhere and effectively said “We’re backing the idea of dragongender to the hilt” and banned people for saying “But dragons aren’t real???”
The core issue isn’t drag. The core issue is that the admin came up, all but repeated the Attack Helicopter meme using to attack trans folk, but rephrased as a positive, and then removed and banned people who were astounded by that. And as many commenters in this thread show, that is not entirely unpopular on the instance.
I’m not going to break bread with people who insist gender is just a roleplay like we’re all three and pretending to be Power Rangers.
rare PugJesus L. everyone making this a shitshow had every opportunity to block this user, just as every other person we are annoyed with, but for some reason, no, we have to all be vocal about it.
If it was drag themselves, that would be one thing. I don’t even remember the last time I interacted with, or read, drag’s posts. It’s the admin reaction which soured me.
The reaction mandating the legitimization of someone all-but-identifying as an attack helicopter. This is the sort of thing that if I saw in a satire of online trans spaces, I would have rejected as an excessively absurd exaggeration even for mean-spirited satire.
I would say that, in all fairness, that could be read not as an endorsement of the idea of attack helicopter as a gender itself, but as a defense of it in reclamation/shibboleth/slang term, the way that some queer folk playfully call themselves ‘faeries’ despite the history of the term, without meaning to imply that they are literally the fae folk of yore.
… but her actions regarding drag do not inspire confidence in that interpretation.
PTB. This has very much soured me on Blahaj Zone, unfortunately. Not a big loss for them, since I only occasionally posted there, but very saddening to me.
I’m starting to believe that instances that are primarily for one and only one subgrouping are a bad idea, because bad actors just have to put on the right group appellation and the rest of the community will go to bat for whatever malicious nonsense they’ve got in mind, because “they’re one of us!” It’s the same type of thing as separating church and state.
By far the most inclusive communities, in my experience, are the fully general-purpose instances or the regional ones. It’s just too easy for “we’re supportive for the X people” to turn into “well you’re not an X person, and the person who’s beefing with you is, so GET FUCKED from all of us.”
Ok…
In your experience, is your identity ridiculed or questioned on a daily basis? Why do you think that place exists?
What is PTB supposed to mean? Pump the breaks?
Power-Tripping-Bastard
rare PugJesus L. everyone making this a shitshow had every opportunity to block this user, just as every other person we are annoyed with, but for some reason, no, we have to all be vocal about it.
You kind of have a point, to be honest. I started talking about this initially for well-intentioned reasons and still hold some hope that it might be lead to a better exchange of views with the blahaj folks, but it seems like almost all heat no light as of present.
thank you for understanding. please consider repeating this if you agree with it, as it’s going largely unheard
i personally don’t give a fuck if drag’s a troll or not but HOT DAMB it’s like all the reddiquette to “not feed the (apparent) trolls” we learned in our past is thrown out the window in this one specific case for some reason.
Like I said, I don’t even remember the last time I interacted with drag. The admin came out of nowhere and effectively said “We’re backing the idea of dragongender to the hilt” and banned people for saying “But dragons aren’t real???”
The core issue isn’t drag. The core issue is that the admin came up, all but repeated the Attack Helicopter meme using to attack trans folk, but rephrased as a positive, and then removed and banned people who were astounded by that. And as many commenters in this thread show, that is not entirely unpopular on the instance.
I’m not going to break bread with people who insist gender is just a roleplay like we’re all three and pretending to be Power Rangers.
If it was drag themselves, that would be one thing. I don’t even remember the last time I interacted with, or read, drag’s posts. It’s the admin reaction which soured me.
which reaction? clearly stating that a rule would be enforced strictly before enforcing it strictly?
come on, man, you’re better than this lmao
The reaction mandating the legitimization of someone all-but-identifying as an attack helicopter. This is the sort of thing that if I saw in a satire of online trans spaces, I would have rejected as an excessively absurd exaggeration even for mean-spirited satire.
I suppose I thought too highly of people.
Admin specifically endorsed attack helicopter as an identity.
I would say that, in all fairness, that could be read not as an endorsement of the idea of attack helicopter as a gender itself, but as a defense of it in reclamation/shibboleth/slang term, the way that some queer folk playfully call themselves ‘faeries’ despite the history of the term, without meaning to imply that they are literally the fae folk of yore.
… but her actions regarding drag do not inspire confidence in that interpretation.