I understand that Isabell Fall took an internet meme and made an artistic statement uaing a fictional story which does not actually involve a real person identifying as an attack helicopter. That doesn’t make the meme itself less transphobic.
Isabel Fall is/was a trans woman who wrote a story invoking the “I sexually identify as an attack helicopter” meme / dog whistle and got attacked for it to the point of suicidal thoughts and her/them detransitioning even by her/their own peers. One of the lessons that some hope that could be learned from this is that, as Ada said it, “[it] isn’t always a troll, and how the community itself can become harmful to its own members when it turns on them”.
Additionally, as Mossy Feathers in this thread points out: If it is a troll, you’re just feeding it. If it isn’t, you’re an ass. Oh and you’re an ass either way, because you – regardless of your infinite wisdom about what LGBTQ+ people want, how to protect them, or how to normalize our existence – have questioned someone’s identity, which is not yours to decide, and that’s against our instance’s rules.
Do not interact, or block, and nobody will mind.
Heck, some folks witnessing this mess, including me at this point, are probably quite happy about drag’s “trolling”, as it seems to honeypot those unwilling to listen to us into showing their bigoted ways. As already said: Don’t tell us how to run our communities, especially not after “one of you” just got kicked out for so blatantly breaking our rules in a post that’s literally about asking people not to.
Good thing I’m not on that instance breaking that instance’s rules by having the audacity to have an opinion on whether an obvious troll is a troll. I’m just over here making an observation on one specific troll and one admin who is falling for a troll.
So in your opinion, it was entirely okay to, on the post of an admin explicitly asking people to respect neopronouns, go “except for that dragon person, right?”. If you want to have a talk and not get banned, see Squorlple’s conversation with Ada in that thread.
How yould you react to someone saying their pronouns were nazi/nazi? I would think they were a troll for the same reasons I think drag/drag is trolling.
Wonder if Ada would accept someone pointing that out in their thread? I won’t do that because pointing out how ridiculous a zero tolerance rule is doesn’t go over well and it is their instance. But I do feel free to criticize that decision from over here.
I did read Ada’s comment and think Ada is a fool for encouraging the troll that goes by drag.
So you replied just to confirm that you didn’t read the story of Isabel Fall.
I understand that Isabell Fall took an internet meme and made an artistic statement uaing a fictional story which does not actually involve a real person identifying as an attack helicopter. That doesn’t make the meme itself less transphobic.
Isabel Fall is/was a trans woman who wrote a story invoking the “I sexually identify as an attack helicopter” meme / dog whistle and got attacked for it to the point of suicidal thoughts and her/them detransitioning even by her/their own peers. One of the lessons that some hope that could be learned from this is that, as Ada said it, “[it] isn’t always a troll, and how the community itself can become harmful to its own members when it turns on them”.
Additionally, as Mossy Feathers in this thread points out: If it is a troll, you’re just feeding it. If it isn’t, you’re an ass. Oh and you’re an ass either way, because you – regardless of your infinite wisdom about what LGBTQ+ people want, how to protect them, or how to normalize our existence – have questioned someone’s identity, which is not yours to decide, and that’s against our instance’s rules.
Do not interact, or block, and nobody will mind.
Heck, some folks witnessing this mess, including me at this point, are probably quite happy about drag’s “trolling”, as it seems to honeypot those unwilling to listen to us into showing their bigoted ways. As already said: Don’t tell us how to run our communities, especially not after “one of you” just got kicked out for so blatantly breaking our rules in a post that’s literally about asking people not to.
Good thing I’m not on that instance breaking that instance’s rules by having the audacity to have an opinion on whether an obvious troll is a troll. I’m just over here making an observation on one specific troll and one admin who is falling for a troll.
It isn’t always a troll, but sometimes it is.
So in your opinion, it was entirely okay to, on the post of an admin explicitly asking people to respect neopronouns, go “except for that dragon person, right?”. If you want to have a talk and not get banned, see Squorlple’s conversation with Ada in that thread.
How yould you react to someone saying their pronouns were nazi/nazi? I would think they were a troll for the same reasons I think drag/drag is trolling.
Wonder if Ada would accept someone pointing that out in their thread? I won’t do that because pointing out how ridiculous a zero tolerance rule is doesn’t go over well and it is their instance. But I do feel free to criticize that decision from over here.