• @TheTetrapod
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    6 days ago

    You don’t blame a kicked dog for biting. That’s not a tankie opinion, it was everywhere a year ago.

    ETA: Hell, I just remembered that I dropped that line during a first date in February and got an “Exactly!” in response.

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      Rampant murder, rape, and kidnapping of innocents at a music festival being likened to something as innocuous as a “dog biting”. Typical tankie metaphor.

      And before you go “But Israel does the saaame!!!” Then those people should be caught and punished too just like the Hamas terrorists should be.

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      We aren’t talking about dogs here, neither are we talking about biting. We are talking about humans making the deliberate choices to kill, rape, abduct, and torture other humans. You do blame people for murder, no matter why they did it. Doesn’t mean Israel doesn’t do evil shit and their policy towards Palestinians isn’t disgusting, but it doesn’t justify murder, rape, a d torture. That doesn’t mean that Israel should not be pressured to stop some of their policies and operations which are openly in defiance of international humanitarian law, not justified by need, unnecessarily and unjustified brutal, and against common decency. To claim that the actions of either side are forced upon them by necessity or somehow dictated as response is to deny their humanity, their agency as individuals and political entities, and their right to self-determination. Neither of them is justified on their actions and all of them are committing grave, non justifiable, unnecessary, and self defeating evil.

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        35 days ago

        Lmao why is this extremely reasonable comment being downvoted? Some pieces of shit in this thread.

      • @TankovayaDiviziya
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        Finally, someone gets it.

        There is a reason that the most centrist position on the Palestine-Israel issue is two state solution.

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          It is not necessarily a centrist position, it is the only realistic solution so far proposed. Every other proposal known to me stands no chance at ending hostilities, hatred and oppression. At least if one is not willing to commit genocide or institute a permanent state of apartheid. Peace achieved by the total destruction of the opposing side unfortunately appears to be something some few influenceal people on both sides apparently see as acceptable or even preferable. These individuals must be removed, before peace can be achieved. The solution I would prefer would be that of a federated, strongly decentralized state containing both Israel and Palestinian lands, to allow both groups secure, orderly and mutually recognized access to their respective and their shared heritage, communities and their homes. Unfortunately this appears impossible in the current situation and has always been an incredibly ambitious plan, but perhaps it can be achieved at a later time, when the conflict has ceased for some time and mutual understanding and respect have been established.