• @Rainonyourhead
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    15 days ago

    I disagree that the difference is the perception of alive

    It’s possible to both hold on to the inherent value of human life and make space to grieve abortions, AND prioritize the physical and mental wellbeing of the women who (for whatever reason) can’t or won’t go through a pregnancy, adoption and/or being a parent

    Even with the assumption that a fetus is human and alive, it is important to acknowledge how horrific and traumatic it can be to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term

    The realities of pregnancy is still quite taboo, so many aren’t aware of the medical risks, physical strain, bodily changes and risk of death that can be involved with pregnancy and birth.

    Reminder that marginalized people also experience higher maternal and newborn mortality, and childbirth and pregnancy has higher risks if you’re for example poor, black or both

    It’s one thing to choose to go through nine months of bodily changes, an invasive medical precedure like birth, and recovery willingly. It’s another to go through it against your will.

    Abortion rights very much comes down to the discussion of who’s rights, wellbeing and bodily autonomy comes first. The unborn child or the woman and the body carrying the child. As well as who has more right to a future of their choosing.

    On top of that, there’s the important conversations of the future lives for both the unwanted child and parents, and the socioeconomic issues. Both in terms of the rich always having access to abortions, regardless of laws and general accessibility, so that poor and disenfranchised people overwhelmingly are the ones affected when pregnancies are forced to be carried to term. As well as how our system is set up so many unwanted kids grow up in poverty. And just… The questions about what qualifies well or badly suited parents, and what kind of life an unwanted child is gonna have.

    Reducing abortion rights to the dehumanization of fetuses is missing the crux of the problem. Additionally, that reduction is part of the reason too many men who are careless, bordering on callus, when it comes to safe sex, cause they view the “removal of a bunch of non-alive cells” to be “no big deal”, ignorant to the impact both pregnancy, abortion and birth can have on women’s body and mind. As well as a potential child, of course, and not having to battle with the moral dilemma if human life and giving side for what could have been

    There are people in my life who’ve had abortions, and people who chose to carry to term. It cannot be overrated how undeniably life-changing a child is - good and bad. It’s a massive, life long responsibility, that should not be taken lightly. For people who aren’t ready for that… I don’t wish that for anyone.

    Tl;Dr Even with the presumption that life begins at conception, access to abortion is vital

    • Victor
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      15 days ago

      Agree completely. It’s not a matter of black or white at all. There’s definitely a wide spectrum of gray to this debate and many factors and aspects to consider.

      My wife had an abortion before I met her, she has told me about her feelings surrounding that. She recalls sitting on the toilet and then this lump just kind of fell out into the toilet. (She took some type of pill and so this occurred at home.) It was very emotional, despite just looking basically like a heavy period lump.

      My point is merely that I’m generalizing the arguments that each side has against the other side. One side argues the value of human life as a quantitative value, and the other as a qualitative value, to put it very briefly.