• KillingTimeItself
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    57 days ago

    absurdism is very much not "nothing matters"ism.

    Absurdism is pushing the boundaries as much as possible within the framework of a traditionally recognized media, art, performance art, movies, shows, whatever.

    A great example of this is many of the pieces done by Marina Abramović particularly the rhythm series (btw performance art has some of the most bizarre pieces out there, highly recommend looking into it sometime), or any of her proposed pieces. The whole point of absurdism is a situation that is not physically conceivable. Or outside the bounds of normality to such an extent that it enters a new plane of reality. You could argue that it may even be a hyper-reality.

    The point is to demonstrate the arbitrary nature of our lives, everything around us, and how we define it. It’s not that nothing matters, it’s that everything surrounding us has no inherent meaning outside of our commonly accepted frame of reference.

    TL;DR absurdism isn’t just nihilism, it’s meta nihilism. Everything matters, but the problem is nobody knows why anything matters, it’s entirely manufactured. There is no set or explained reason for any one thing being any particular way.

    • @dil
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      116 days ago

      Absurdism in philosophy is "nothing matters"ism - see the exurb1a video above.

      In art, though, absurdism is what you describe.

      • KillingTimeItself
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        16 days ago

        i mean, in philosophy, if you go far enough nothing matters at all anymore ever, so everything is just nihilism if you think hard enough about it.

        regardless of that, which is definitely an interesting point of discussion, this is a post in 196, about a meme, so i feel like i’m justified in that one.

        • DemeOP
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          Most philosophers (all who were/are not nihilists) would disagree with you here. You can’t say that “they just didn’t think hard enough about it”, just because they arrived at different conclusions.

          That’s one of the neat things about philosophy: There is no absolutely true framework or theory. It’s all just different ways of looking at things.

          • KillingTimeItself
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            15 days ago

            You can’t say that “they just didn’t think hard enough about it”, just because they arrived at different conclusions.

            to be clear, that’s not explicitly what im saying, i’m just proposing that if you were to think hard enough about anything for long enough, it devolves until it cannot devolve anymore. There is some level of arbitrary basis that needs to be defined in order to make a clear comprehensible statement on something. Where that level is just depends on where you stop.

            That’s one of the neat things about philosophy: There is no absolutely true framework or theory. It’s all just different ways of looking at things.

            it’s definitely one of the most interesting aspects of it as a field. Much like neuroscience, which we still don’t really understand, the only difference is that it doesn’t really have a direct implication in our daily lives lmao. It’s mostly just people with way too much free time thinking about things they probably don’t need to spend time thinking about.