Last September, California Governor Gavin Newsom signed into law SB-1271, which redefines and adds to several electric bicycle regulations in…

  • @Crackhappy
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    212 months ago

    I do not understand why this is being implemented, after reading the article. What’s the safety gain to be had here?

    • @BussyCat
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      182 months ago

      It clarifies their class so if an area is limited with no throttle E-bikes it can allow level 1 and 3 instead of only level 1

    • @[email protected]
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      122 months ago

      I imagine it’s to stop them being used like motorcycles? Can’t say why, maybe it’s for registration / taxation purposes?

      • @b34k
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        32 months ago

        My nephew is 12 and has one of these with a throttle that can go over 35mph. His parents let him ride it anywhere (fucking irresponsible, but don’t get me started).

        The fact is, because it looks like a bicycle, he’s essentially able to ride around like he’s on a motorcycle, even though he’s too young to have a drivers license and has no formal training in rules of the road.

      • AnIndefiniteArticle
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        02 months ago

        Ok, but they really can’t be used as motorcycles, regardless. You’re pedalling 99% of the time, and to have any respectable range your legs are providing the majority of the power.

        • @[email protected]
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          102 months ago

          Here in Melbourne, Australia, they use them like motorcycles everywhere.

          Every single food panda, or other delivery rider is on an e bike with throttle, and they never peddle.

          They ride at full speed, on the roads, like motorcycles.

          It’s totally doable. Thousands are doing it every day here.

          • AnIndefiniteArticle
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            32 months ago

            Ok, but these are US street legal ebikes.

            I have put thousands of miles on my class 3 as my primary commute. Definitely pedal powered with some motorized assistance.

        • Corgana
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          2 months ago

          Electric vehicles with a throttle (what the law is targeting) can absolutely be used as motorcycles. Hence why CA feels motorcycle-like vehicles need to be reclassified. What the law is targeting are functionally motorcycles/mopeds with pedals attached.

          • AnIndefiniteArticle
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            12 months ago

            I have one of those and have thousands of miles recorded on it. It’s been my primary method of commuting to work for the past 1.5 years. For the battery to last the 40 mile round trip, my legs are the primary driver.

            They don’t really work as motorcycles because the throttle cuts off at 20 mph. Short of adding more heavy batteries (thereby requiring a beefier motorcycle motor), they don’t have the range to be a motorcycle.

            • Corgana
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              52 months ago

              If your legs are the primary driver then you do not have the type of vehicle the law is targeting.

        • @[email protected]
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          52 months ago

          Perhaps with your preferred brand(s) of ebikes. This law is targeting Super73 and similar brands that advertise and promote post-sale “off-road” or “unlimited” modifications. These modified bikes have been a nuisance on public trails for a few years now.

    • socsa
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      42 months ago

      Throttles are a big factor enabling this legal gray market for e mopeds. Without throttles most of these bikes are basically too heavy to ride as a pedelac. This will push the trend back towards lighter, bike-like bikes.