Last September, California Governor Gavin Newsom signed into law SB-1271, which redefines and adds to several electric bicycle regulations in…

  • @[email protected]
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    126 days ago

    I imagine it’s to stop them being used like motorcycles? Can’t say why, maybe it’s for registration / taxation purposes?

    • @b34k
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      34 days ago

      My nephew is 12 and has one of these with a throttle that can go over 35mph. His parents let him ride it anywhere (fucking irresponsible, but don’t get me started).

      The fact is, because it looks like a bicycle, he’s essentially able to ride around like he’s on a motorcycle, even though he’s too young to have a drivers license and has no formal training in rules of the road.

    • AnIndefiniteArticle
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      15 days ago

      Ok, but they really can’t be used as motorcycles, regardless. You’re pedalling 99% of the time, and to have any respectable range your legs are providing the majority of the power.

      • Corgana
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        4 days ago

        Electric vehicles with a throttle (what the law is targeting) can absolutely be used as motorcycles. Hence why CA feels motorcycle-like vehicles need to be reclassified. What the law is targeting are functionally motorcycles/mopeds with pedals attached.

        • AnIndefiniteArticle
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          15 days ago

          I have one of those and have thousands of miles recorded on it. It’s been my primary method of commuting to work for the past 1.5 years. For the battery to last the 40 mile round trip, my legs are the primary driver.

          They don’t really work as motorcycles because the throttle cuts off at 20 mph. Short of adding more heavy batteries (thereby requiring a beefier motorcycle motor), they don’t have the range to be a motorcycle.

          • Corgana
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            44 days ago

            If your legs are the primary driver then you do not have the type of vehicle the law is targeting.

      • @[email protected]
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        105 days ago

        Here in Melbourne, Australia, they use them like motorcycles everywhere.

        Every single food panda, or other delivery rider is on an e bike with throttle, and they never peddle.

        They ride at full speed, on the roads, like motorcycles.

        It’s totally doable. Thousands are doing it every day here.

        • AnIndefiniteArticle
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          35 days ago

          Ok, but these are US street legal ebikes.

          I have put thousands of miles on my class 3 as my primary commute. Definitely pedal powered with some motorized assistance.

      • @[email protected]
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        55 days ago

        Perhaps with your preferred brand(s) of ebikes. This law is targeting Super73 and similar brands that advertise and promote post-sale “off-road” or “unlimited” modifications. These modified bikes have been a nuisance on public trails for a few years now.