The biggest one is my banking app and the contactless payment that comes with it. My password manager (at least, not well, last time I tried). The fucking piece of crap authenticator I need for 50% of work, but that doesn’t really matter for my private phone. My earphones work, but can’t be configured, so I get either no audio passthrough ever or constant wind noises when biking. There is also no convenient car interface like, CarPlay or Auto, for Linux that I know of, which is annoying but not a hard requirement.
It’s just generally kind of a hassle too. I already don’t like working on a phone, and Linux makes me do much more work for some very basic things.
Hm. Well, linux for phones isn’t really available anyway, but if you don’t like futzing with so much on the phone, why not go to an apple? That’s the main benefit, you can futz all you want or just go stock and everything works.
Depends on how you mean. The code isn’t open source, but you can turn off notifications, prevent apps from accessing the camera, turn off EXIF, location data, etc.
Does all your biometric DNA and everything get slurped up by Apple and processed into a secret file for the NSA where they use robots to steal our luggage? Yeah maybe. I mean, no one’s proven that yet, despite it being almost 20 years. But I get to play my little piratd mp3s, stiff Google, and don’t have to unlock a fucking custom rom to get that level of control.
It’s not perfect. It’s just better. Or, you can stick with a dumb phone and pen & paper like a sane rational person.
What the fuck is so special it doesn’t run on linux?
Someone mentioned an OTP app, or password app - okay, but there’s many on linux, so that’d just be a preference for whatever it was. It would have to be something that isn’t browser-based. So - what’s so unforgivably irreplacable on android that people can’t live without?
You’re in a thread about setting up a custom rom and you’re saying there’s something so unique, so proprietary that it can’t be experienced in a linux environment - fine. What is it? Microsoft Word? AutoCAD? phone versions, presumably? I dunno.
I can’t think of anything, but you’re asking if I’m taking the piss because it’s incothievable anyone could be wondering what’s so irreplaceable about android. So - what’s the app you can’t live without?
i wish it was viable. i spent two weeks with a pinephone and i ended up basically not using it. i want to try postmarketos someday but i dont have high hopes for it
And, unfortunately, it won’t be here. If you look at the supported devices section of the PMOS wiki, you’ll see that the latest phones are based on SD845.
Since Android is based on Linux as well, honestly I think that’s just as fine. As long as the software is FOSS, who cares whether it’s Linux+Java or Linux+KDE?
If you’re replacing the firmware, why are you replacing it with Android and not Linux?
Because none of the software I want on my phone runs in Linux?
Like what? Just curious.
The biggest one is my banking app and the contactless payment that comes with it. My password manager (at least, not well, last time I tried). The fucking piece of crap authenticator I need for 50% of work, but that doesn’t really matter for my private phone. My earphones work, but can’t be configured, so I get either no audio passthrough ever or constant wind noises when biking. There is also no convenient car interface like, CarPlay or Auto, for Linux that I know of, which is annoying but not a hard requirement.
It’s just generally kind of a hassle too. I already don’t like working on a phone, and Linux makes me do much more work for some very basic things.
Hm. Well, linux for phones isn’t really available anyway, but if you don’t like futzing with so much on the phone, why not go to an apple? That’s the main benefit, you can futz all you want or just go stock and everything works.
…what? Since when is iOS not the most locked-down OS ever?
Depends on how you mean. The code isn’t open source, but you can turn off notifications, prevent apps from accessing the camera, turn off EXIF, location data, etc.
Does all your biometric DNA and everything get slurped up by Apple and processed into a secret file for the NSA where they use robots to steal our luggage? Yeah maybe. I mean, no one’s proven that yet, despite it being almost 20 years. But I get to play my little piratd mp3s, stiff Google, and don’t have to unlock a fucking custom rom to get that level of control.
It’s not perfect. It’s just better. Or, you can stick with a dumb phone and pen & paper like a sane rational person.
All things you can do on stock Android as well.
like… all apps?
email? Browser? Chat? umm . . . weather? They do, y’know, run in linux.
Now linux on a phone in the first place - fair enough, it’s really really unlikely.
are you taking the piss? or do you just not think people want to be able to run the stuff they’re used to?
if i wanted a feature phone i’d buy a fucking second hand nokia
What the fuck is so special it doesn’t run on linux?
Someone mentioned an OTP app, or password app - okay, but there’s many on linux, so that’d just be a preference for whatever it was. It would have to be something that isn’t browser-based. So - what’s so unforgivably irreplacable on android that people can’t live without?
You’re in a thread about setting up a custom rom and you’re saying there’s something so unique, so proprietary that it can’t be experienced in a linux environment - fine. What is it? Microsoft Word? AutoCAD? phone versions, presumably? I dunno.
I can’t think of anything, but you’re asking if I’m taking the piss because it’s incothievable anyone could be wondering what’s so irreplaceable about android. So - what’s the app you can’t live without?
i wish it was viable. i spent two weeks with a pinephone and i ended up basically not using it. i want to try postmarketos someday but i dont have high hopes for it
i’ve tried postmarketos on the pinephone and like, it’s usable, but it’s basically a strange featurephone.
And that was with the most minimalist “DE” available, if you go with something that has an actual normal phone interface then it’s dogshit slow
Phone Linux just isn’t there yet. Getting back to the FOSS Android is about as good as you can do right now.
And, unfortunately, it won’t be here. If you look at the supported devices section of the PMOS wiki, you’ll see that the latest phones are based on SD845.
Since Android is based on Linux as well, honestly I think that’s just as fine. As long as the software is FOSS, who cares whether it’s Linux+Java or Linux+KDE?
It doesn’t work yet. People have spent a lot of time to get it to work - in some cases some models of some manufacturers pretty much work.
For the rest of us, it’s not an option.