• @dil
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    15 days ago

    Why do you think Trump won?

    I agree that Biden made good progress, and that Dems are pushing for the right things, but even with that progress and platform voters still handed the country back to Trump.

    Maybe put another way, what are the ways to energize people to vote blue? Actually governing well clearly isn’t it.

    • @finitebanjo
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      5 days ago

      I think Trump won because the vast majority of Americans aren’t just uneducated about issues but also in general are misinformed. Everyone thinks Trump was good for the economy and Biden was bad. Everyone thinks Genocide Joe gives Netanyahu everything he wants and that Trump will end the war.

      We need to fight back by teaching and informing voters. We need to spread the word, each of us needs to, to get people excited to vote for not just the shinier turd but the candidates who are actually good for us and for democracy as a whole. Door to door. Pamphlets. Billboards. Town halls. Even, or perhaps especially, memes and short form video content.

      • @dil
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        05 days ago

        Definitely agree about voters being misinformed. It really worries me that there isn’t a consensus reality with agreement on even what the problems are, let alone solutions.

        I recently read this and found it helpful: https://www.hamiltonnolan.com/p/how-to-think-about-politics-without

        Basically, it says that politicians won’t do the right thing because it’s the right thing, they’ll do whatever is politically advantageous. In that framing, our role is to make it advantageous for them to do the right thing.

        A video I’ve seen in this realm is this one: https://youtu.be/yXOgbbHyii8

        He’s aiming for much loftier goals than individual policies like universal healthcare, but I especially like his points on effective ways to allocate your energy.

        Personally, I fall somewhere between him and the Contrapoints video he’s responding to - I think we should absolutely vote for politicians and policies that move us in the right direction, but I think it’s much more important overall to build collective power outside of the state (unions / community organizations). Ideally, I’d like to spend 90% of my effort on organizing and 10% on voting and voter engagement.

        I don’t think that allocation is objectively correct, or that there even exists a “right” way to engage. Different folks have different values, strengths, and interests, and I think the most important thing is that we’re all pulling in the same direction of “get everyone’s basic needs met.”

        • @finitebanjo
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          04 days ago

          Link to Anark

          Lmao no

          I don’t think that allocation is objectively correct, or that there even exists a “right” way to engage. Different folks have different values, strengths, and interests, and I think the most important thing is that we’re all pulling in the same direction of “get everyone’s basic needs met.”

          There’s a pretty clear right way to engage. Show empathy, tell the truth, supply evidence.

          • @dil
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            14 days ago

            Wait what’s the problem with anark?

            • @finitebanjo
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              14 days ago

              It’s fine to have unique political ideologies and aspirations, but anybody who preaches dissolution of the state is not a person on your side for supporting an established political party or passing reforms.

              Their idea of “fixing the problem” is not a realistic or reasonable way to fix the problem. They can’t help us, they can’t help anybody.