When i switched from Windows to Linux, i wanted actual changes, not just a slightly different look
Unrelated question: does anyone know how to show the time in fullscreen or merge the bar with window close button with the top bar with the screen so there arent 2 different bars in GNOME?
I used Gnome Shell 3 for 4 years before giving up on it and going to KDE.
The huge differentiator is that KDE may look like windows OOTB on most distros, but if you want you can easily make it look like Gnome, Mac, Unity… whatever. The panels and menus are infinitely configurable.
And that is why this meme is dead on the money. I’ve come to hate dev teams that have “visions” that they cram down users throats regardless of the experience. And the irony is that Gnome 2 used to be much more configurable than older KDE versions.
The huge differentiator is that KDE may look like windows OOTB on most distros, but if you want you can easily make it look like Gnome, Mac, Unity… whatever. The panels and menus are infinitely configurable.
Is there a way to configure the look of all the apps running on kde? Because one of the main things that keeps my away from KDE is how ugly all the k* apps look out of the box.
KDEs vision is letting users have the experience they want. You can have a vision without limiting configurability and cramming bad UX down the pipe to your users.
I agree. The only time a strong vision is a problem is if there are no options. But now, the people who don’t want gnome can easily just use something else. I want the gnome devs to do their thing, and as long as I enjoy using gnome I will use it.
Not only that but gnome has a great extension portfolio. Even if they introduce breaking changes I’m happy because I’m glad they are making changes and moving forward rather then bloating with old features
Yes but what if you need to set up a computer for public use at a community center or a library or something? You shouldn’t expect the visitors to know your custom config. Until there’s a tiling WM that also has GUI elements that enforce the principle of discoverability, I think off-the-shelf DE’s are the only viable option for this usecase.
I love GNOME and hate KDE
When i switched from Windows to Linux, i wanted actual changes, not just a slightly different look
Unrelated question: does anyone know how to show the time in fullscreen or merge the bar with window close button with the top bar with the screen so there arent 2 different bars in GNOME?
I used Gnome Shell 3 for 4 years before giving up on it and going to KDE.
The huge differentiator is that KDE may look like windows OOTB on most distros, but if you want you can easily make it look like Gnome, Mac, Unity… whatever. The panels and menus are infinitely configurable.
And that is why this meme is dead on the money. I’ve come to hate dev teams that have “visions” that they cram down users throats regardless of the experience. And the irony is that Gnome 2 used to be much more configurable than older KDE versions.
Is there a way to configure the look of all the apps running on kde? Because one of the main things that keeps my away from KDE is how ugly all the k* apps look out of the box.
In Plasma 6 there are a crazy number of ways to skin and change the look.
This video was a good way for me to learn some of the basics. https://youtu.be/R6C-RNhHMrE
https://store.kde.org/browse?cat=717&ord=rating
or
https://store.kde.org/browse?cat=722&ord=rating
To be honest I have the opposite feeling, dev teams with no vision trying to support every single feature possible with no standards drives me bananas
KDEs vision is letting users have the experience they want. You can have a vision without limiting configurability and cramming bad UX down the pipe to your users.
It’s no coincidence that C++ is the primary language used in KDE…
Idk why people are so against specialization…
I agree. The only time a strong vision is a problem is if there are no options. But now, the people who don’t want gnome can easily just use something else. I want the gnome devs to do their thing, and as long as I enjoy using gnome I will use it.
Not only that but gnome has a great extension portfolio. Even if they introduce breaking changes I’m happy because I’m glad they are making changes and moving forward rather then bloating with old features
TBH both gnome and KDE are broken piles of crap. Cinnamon and XFCE are the only good DE’s left out there (at least for xorg, idk about wayland).
Last time i tried XFCE, i had a terrible experience
But that might be because i was playing minecraft with 300 mods on a laptop that could barely open the launcher
All DEs are jank. The only good DE is the tiling wm I put 10k lines of config into.
Don’t get me wrong, that’s also janky, but it’s my
faultjank.Yes but what if you need to set up a computer for public use at a community center or a library or something? You shouldn’t expect the visitors to know your custom config. Until there’s a tiling WM that also has GUI elements that enforce the principle of discoverability, I think off-the-shelf DE’s are the only viable option for this usecase.
Sorry, I though my comment was sufficiently self-humerous 😅
Of course custom configs are not suitable for anyone but the config-urator. Hence, custom configs :D
I’d at Mate to the list as well.
XFCE and Cinnamon its in the Desktop as a experimental option
I feel exactly the same