Alternatives still alive and kicking: OpenRC, Runit, Dinit, s6
Gentoo (Systemd or Openrc), Artix (multiple choices), Void (Runit), PCLinuxOS (SysV), Obarun (s6), Alpine (Openrc, still transitioning to s6). Devuan (Runit + SysV) doesn’t do it well. Gobolinux has program partitioning, Chimera moved to FreeBSD. And a vew nearly-forgotten Distros that never used Systemd at all, like Slackware, AntiX, MX Linux, Nitrux.
Artix and PCLinuxOS are imo the best pick for Desktop without hassle, Obarun and Void for console, Alpine for server.
s6 has user services built-in, dinit uses turnstile for that and, with seatd, additionally as elogind-alternative.
i used it for a year, if you add arch repos (which you have to if you want to install anything useful) package issues get worse with every update, eventualy you have to add shit ton of ignore and assume installed flags to each pacman command
I used it for years now, with Arch repos, and had no such issues. They renamed their repos lately, needed manual changes in pacman.conf, maybe that’s why? And if pacman proposes both sources, just take Artix’ ones usually. Or your ignored packages caused issues?
I don’t know if it was a skill issue in my end but one day I did a Syu and it gave me shit ton of errors about how bunch of packages conflict, I eventually figured it out but it kept getting worse with every syu
arch repos are not officially supported anyway so its probably not a good idea to use artix if you need arch repos
Once again, give me a reasonable alternative and a distro that implements it, or stop whining.
Alternatives still alive and kicking: OpenRC, Runit, Dinit, s6
Gentoo (Systemd or Openrc), Artix (multiple choices), Void (Runit), PCLinuxOS (SysV), Obarun (s6), Alpine (Openrc, still transitioning to s6). Devuan (Runit + SysV) doesn’t do it well. Gobolinux has program partitioning, Chimera moved to FreeBSD. And a vew nearly-forgotten Distros that never used Systemd at all, like Slackware, AntiX, MX Linux, Nitrux.
Artix and PCLinuxOS are imo the best pick for Desktop without hassle, Obarun and Void for console, Alpine for server.
s6 has user services built-in, dinit uses turnstile for that and, with seatd, additionally as elogind-alternative.
MX Linux, nearly forgotten???
dont use artix
i used it for a year, if you add arch repos (which you have to if you want to install anything useful) package issues get worse with every update, eventualy you have to add shit ton of ignore and assume installed flags to each pacman command
I used it for years now, with Arch repos, and had no such issues. They renamed their repos lately, needed manual changes in pacman.conf, maybe that’s why? And if pacman proposes both sources, just take Artix’ ones usually. Or your ignored packages caused issues?
I don’t know if it was a skill issue in my end but one day I did a Syu and it gave me shit ton of errors about how bunch of packages conflict, I eventually figured it out but it kept getting worse with every syu
arch repos are not officially supported anyway so its probably not a good idea to use artix if you need arch repos
Gentoo with OpenRC is a good option imo
Half of these don’t even handle logging
Logging like logfiles? That’s the job of a syslog daemon.