Like, why is it so widespread, what causes it, what solutions are available, etc. I don’t really know how to ask this question so I hope I’m making sense

  • @Pacattack57
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    32 days ago

    I was about to write this exact thing and you’re already getting downvotes for it. People refuse to except reality.

    There is an extremely large portion of men that are scared to put themselves out there because they are ostracized as creeps and fear the consequences of social shaming. “The worst she can say is no” is no longer true. The worst she can do is take a video of you while she publicly shames you for being a creep and trying to rape her.

    • @Acamon
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      62 days ago

      I think the reason for down votes is that the comment suggests that issues with dating are the reason for male loneliness, when most people in the thread would argue that believing that ‘a romantic partner is the only acceptable source of meaningful emotional connection available to men’ is a big part of male loneliness.

    • @Zron
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      42 days ago

      Met my wife online during the pandemic.

      Dated a fair few women before her, meeting online and in real life.

      I’m not super attractive, and pretty awkward, but I always make the effort to be polite and actually listen instead of waiting to talk, you’d be amazed how far that actually gets you.

      • sunzu2
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        31 day ago

        This is an anecdote, also having good social skills was always a clever way to make up for looks.

        Most people have not been properly socialized since childhood. They need to level up but it is one of them things kinda like being poor, you are starting behind and you need to work 2x to get to mid.

        • @Zron
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          11 day ago

          If you don’t have good looks, that’s one thing, you can’t really change that.

          But then if you don’t look good and you can’t try to hold a conversation, that’s your problem.

          Learn to speak, it’s not hard. go talk to people and gain some confidence. All this talk about poor socialization or being unattractive and creepy just demoralizes people that I’m sure could actually make friends and meet spouses if they didn’t preemptively pull themselves out of the situation before they gave themselves the chance