You can’t ban something that basically supports all products that people use for free. You can’t compare it to smoking. Some advertising is pure pollution, like highway billboards
If paying doesn’t prevent ads, how does your suggestion help?
I’m not sure it makes sense to talk about any specific platform since multiple are starting to introduce this, and more will follow. But if you’d like we could go with Amazon Prime Video. Why are they showing me ads, even though I’m paying for the service?
Ah, so I should pay for the content, but since that’s not enough I should boycott and not consume media.
Or we can recognize that individual user action doesn’t help and regulate ads, because as I said, it’s not just Amazon that’s trying to squeeze every cent possible. It’s every company. Netflix has ad-supported plans (and is phasing others out), YouTube still shows some ads with Premium, …
You said it, ad-supported. Pay a little and watch ads, or pay more and don’t watch ads. Prime apparently doesn’t offer the second option.
Translated to American: Costco charges a membership and Walmart doesn’t. You still have to pay for the groceries either way. You don’t like the membership? Shop at Walmart.
Sigh… I specifically didn’t bring examples because it was obvious you’d pull this.
These services used to not be ad-supported at all. Amazon Prime Video used to be ad-free. Netflix used to not have an ad-supported plan. YouTube probably was always shit enough to show ads with Premium, don’t know about that. But it’s neither a coincidence nor an accident that prices keep rising AND ads are being introduced. It will happen to all the other services too.
Translated to capitalist bootlicker: All companies are enshittifying their services. You can’t escape it unless you boycott everything. It’s not a company-specific issue.
And, as a German, let me tell you a hearty “fuck off” with whatever superiority complex you’re trying to show off.
This is a false dichotomy, and illustrates the pernicious terminal incuriosity and learned helplessness modern society incentivises, rewards, and celebrates.
There are models other than incendiary extraction and debasement which can be implemented to value and promote creative work. Elevating the legitimacy of advertising in its current role perpetuates its abuse, and suppresses these preferable alternatives.
In the society where I live, journalists, artists, developers and others like to have food and shelter. Ads is 9nr way of paying for it, cash is another. What do you propose, paying in exposure?
Advertising needs to become as socially acceptable as smoking.
It’s the most pervasive pollution wrought upon our environments, and amplifies the carcinogenic perpetual growth delusion.
People are not willing to pay for services that they get for free.
How, precisely, does that relate to, or negate, what I posted?
You can’t ban something that basically supports all products that people use for free. You can’t compare it to smoking. Some advertising is pure pollution, like highway billboards
If cannot operate service without invade everyone with annoying bullshit, then simply do not. Never start.
They should not exist in first place.
So you are willing to pay for the content you consume?
I am paying for the content I consume, yet I still get ads. Why is that?
And don’t say it’s due to rising costs of production, because their profits somehow also grow every year.
Probably because of the platform? No idea, you don’t give details.
If paying doesn’t prevent ads, how does your suggestion help?
I’m not sure it makes sense to talk about any specific platform since multiple are starting to introduce this, and more will follow. But if you’d like we could go with Amazon Prime Video. Why are they showing me ads, even though I’m paying for the service?
They are trying to squeeze every cent possible, in typical Amazon fashion. If you don’t like, speak with your wallet and cancel the subscription.
Ah, so I should pay for the content, but since that’s not enough I should boycott and not consume media.
Or we can recognize that individual user action doesn’t help and regulate ads, because as I said, it’s not just Amazon that’s trying to squeeze every cent possible. It’s every company. Netflix has ad-supported plans (and is phasing others out), YouTube still shows some ads with Premium, …
It’s not just one company, it’s all companies.
You said it, ad-supported. Pay a little and watch ads, or pay more and don’t watch ads. Prime apparently doesn’t offer the second option.
Translated to American: Costco charges a membership and Walmart doesn’t. You still have to pay for the groceries either way. You don’t like the membership? Shop at Walmart.
Sigh… I specifically didn’t bring examples because it was obvious you’d pull this.
These services used to not be ad-supported at all. Amazon Prime Video used to be ad-free. Netflix used to not have an ad-supported plan. YouTube probably was always shit enough to show ads with Premium, don’t know about that. But it’s neither a coincidence nor an accident that prices keep rising AND ads are being introduced. It will happen to all the other services too.
Translated to capitalist bootlicker: All companies are enshittifying their services. You can’t escape it unless you boycott everything. It’s not a company-specific issue.
And, as a German, let me tell you a hearty “fuck off” with whatever superiority complex you’re trying to show off.
This is a false dichotomy, and illustrates the pernicious terminal incuriosity and learned helplessness modern society incentivises, rewards, and celebrates.
There are models other than incendiary extraction and debasement which can be implemented to value and promote creative work. Elevating the legitimacy of advertising in its current role perpetuates its abuse, and suppresses these preferable alternatives.
sick words bro but dude u got any practi-cool ideas? or just complaints :/
Care to share some of those models?
In the society where I live, journalists, artists, developers and others like to have food and shelter. Ads is 9nr way of paying for it, cash is another. What do you propose, paying in exposure?