• .Donuts
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    32 days ago

    What’s a 8700K considered nowadays? And care to elaborate what driver overhead means? A link would also be fine, just trying to inform myself as much as possible :)

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      hardware unboxed for example did some benchmarks on the topic a few days ago. The issue wasn’t noticed at launch, where everyone tested with high end processors to eliminate any bottlenecks, but has recently been discovered.

      I would say a 8700k is maybe lower midrange considering its been a while since it was released? Not sure if someone else tested it with older Intel CPUs, since here it is mostly with AMD stuff, but the problem still applies.

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        Thank you so much, will check that as soon as I can

        Edit: that was really useful, turns out older CPUs are not so feasible with Arc GPUs. Here’s a summary that I found quite simple and elegant from the comment section:

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          Yep, that’s pretty much the gist of it. Driver overhead isn’t something completely new, but with the B580 it certainly is so high that it becomes a massive problem in exactly the use case where it would make the most sense.


          Another albeit smaller issue is the idle power draw. Here is a chart (taken from this article)

          Because for a honest value evaluation that also plays a role, especially for anyone planning to use the card for a long time. Peak power draw doesn’t matter as much imo, since most of us will not push their system to its limit for a majority of the time. But idle power draw does add up over time. It also imo kind of kills it as a product for the second niche use besides budget oriented games, which would be for use in a homelab setting for stuff like video transcoding.


          So as much as i am honestly rooting for Intel and think they are actually making really good progress in entering such a difficult market, this isn’t it yet. Maybe third time’s the charm.