• @batmaniam
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    -12 months ago

    That was not an option on the table. Again, if you think it’ll lead to a better tomorrow so be it, but acknowledge the bodies paving the road.

    • NSRXN
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      12 months ago

      voting makes them responsible for the bodies.

      • @batmaniam
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        02 months ago

        Yeah… so does not… that’s the whole damn trolley problem thing… there were clear and defined outcomes for not pulling the switch. May have been justifiable, not even debating that, but you still own the choice.

        • NSRXN
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          22 months ago

          the whole damn trolley problem thing

          doesn’t have an answer. it’s a thought experiment to expose your personal ethics. deontologists never touch the switch.

          • @batmaniam
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            02 months ago

            deontologists still get splattered, even if it’s the correct choice.

            • NSRXN
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              22 months ago

              but they have no responsibility for the circumstances.

              • @batmaniam
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                -12 months ago

                Didn’t say they did. People die none the less. If that’s acceptable that’s fine, but call it what it is: An acceptable loss.

                • NSRXN
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                  12 months ago

                  it is immoral to flip the switch and murder someone. that doesn’t make the situation acceptable

                  • @batmaniam
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                    -12 months ago

                    I don’t disagree, it doesn’t change that you need to own the bodies as an acceptable loss.

        • NSRXN
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          12 months ago

          you can’t be responsible for something you didn’t cause. that’s not how responsibility works.

          • @batmaniam
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            02 months ago

            There are differing opinions on that depending on which philosopher is at the switch. What doesn’t change is they all have to watch the carnage.

            • NSRXN
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              12 months ago

              but some of them choose to become murderers

              • @batmaniam
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                02 months ago

                No, all of them did. Through action or inaction. So again, if it was in service of a better tomorrow so be it, but it is what it is.

                • NSRXN
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                  12 months ago

                  you can’t murder through inaction, unless words don’t mean anything.

                  • magnetosphere
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                    12 months ago

                    If the risk of death or bodily harm is great enough, ignoring it demonstrates a “depraved indifference” to human life and the resulting death is considered to have been committed with malice aforethought.

                  • @batmaniam
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                    12 months ago

                    Murder, maybe not, but “allow to die through in-action” sure can.