I went to trade school after college. Now I get my hands dirty for work and out-earn all my higher educated friends - except the ones who also work in trades. I also don’t need to worry about AI taking my job.
I was doing trade work, went to college, and now it’s looking like I’m going back. At least college was free.
Can’t do electrical anymore because of CA licensing requirements for trainees (moved here 7 years ago or so), will probably do carpentry or plumbing.
Any tips for what to get into? I’ve been not working w my hands for 5+ years. No licenses, usually did odd jobs to get by. Was an electrical apprentice but never turned out so I can do electrical fairly well. Built a tiny house and did a bunch of carpentry before/after (framing and finish)
I’m sure you don’t need me to tell you this but it isn’t all rainbows and sunshine in the trades either, especially for the self employed.
When you’re young it’s fine but as you get older your body starts to wear out and dragging water heaters out of some crawlspace or running wire in a non air conditioned attic becomes harder.
Still, sitting for 8 hours a day a desk can be bad for you too I guess. 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
It’s pretty easy to extrapolate this to the whole concept of a full-time job being bad for you. It’s not whether you’re wearing out your body or your mind more, it’s that modern life requires you to wear yourself out just to survive.
mechanization may not but venture capital corporationism might.
Someone will “invent” Uber for plumbers and gardeners and now the trades all work for $4/day while the CEO graciously only accepts a $200,000,000 bonus that year.
Unlike VC “AGI tomorrow, promise” bullshit, mechanization is very old and working concept. Just how many barbers with old razor were replaced with one with hair clipping machine.
I applaud your enthusiasm but stay vigilant, companies opting for AI are we less about “they can do my job better than me” and more just another tool to opress the working class.
I say this as someone who works in the film industry, who’s job right out of college is currently being replaced by AI. Soon much more than you think could be replaced, will be too.
Well, luckily I’m self-employed and I believe that even if there was robots doing the kind of manual labor that I do there would still be enough people left who’d rather hire a human. Time will tell I guess.
You guys are all delusional and lying to yourselves lol, if they sold a roomba that could paint your floors or the upgraded version that allows you to subscribe to paint your walls, all of you fuckers would be posting pictures of the meme’s you’ve plastered all over your house.
I’m telling you why that robot doesn’t exist. They’re insanely expensive, highly specialized, and require regular maintenance no average person would ever care to give.
Believe me I’d love to live in some kind of post-work society given your basic needs are cared for, it’s just equally delusional to think it’s here or coming from military robots.
I went to trade school after college. Now I get my hands dirty for work and out-earn all my higher educated friends - except the ones who also work in trades. I also don’t need to worry about AI taking my job.
I was doing trade work, went to college, and now it’s looking like I’m going back. At least college was free.
Can’t do electrical anymore because of CA licensing requirements for trainees (moved here 7 years ago or so), will probably do carpentry or plumbing.
Any tips for what to get into? I’ve been not working w my hands for 5+ years. No licenses, usually did odd jobs to get by. Was an electrical apprentice but never turned out so I can do electrical fairly well. Built a tiny house and did a bunch of carpentry before/after (framing and finish)
I’m sure you don’t need me to tell you this but it isn’t all rainbows and sunshine in the trades either, especially for the self employed.
When you’re young it’s fine but as you get older your body starts to wear out and dragging water heaters out of some crawlspace or running wire in a non air conditioned attic becomes harder.
Still, sitting for 8 hours a day a desk can be bad for you too I guess. 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
It’s pretty easy to extrapolate this to the whole concept of a full-time job being bad for you. It’s not whether you’re wearing out your body or your mind more, it’s that modern life requires you to wear yourself out just to survive.
Our ancestors fought hard for the 40 hour workday not realizing we were just deciding the dimensions of our cage.
To be clear I am not mad at them or blame them. But it’s still true.
I absolutely love the metaphor and it succinctly express the class issue.
Tell me about it. I barely made it to 30 before I washed out of the film industry due to back and foot issues.
Because mechanization will.
EDIT: don’t you know difference between automation and mechanization?
mechanization may not but venture capital corporationism might.
Someone will “invent” Uber for plumbers and gardeners and now the trades all work for $4/day while the CEO graciously only accepts a $200,000,000 bonus that year.
Not that capitalism will do ot better, it will just find a way to pay less. And use automation as a scapegoat. “CEO did not rob you, algorithm did”.
I highly doubt that will happen during my lifetime.
Unlike VC “AGI tomorrow, promise” bullshit, mechanization is very old and working concept. Just how many barbers with old razor were replaced with one with hair clipping machine.
I applaud your enthusiasm but stay vigilant, companies opting for AI are we less about “they can do my job better than me” and more just another tool to opress the working class.
I say this as someone who works in the film industry, who’s job right out of college is currently being replaced by AI. Soon much more than you think could be replaced, will be too.
Well, luckily I’m self-employed and I believe that even if there was robots doing the kind of manual labor that I do there would still be enough people left who’d rather hire a human. Time will tell I guess.
Nope. Turns out robots are expensive and break down frequently.
Who said anything about robots? I did not mention them.
A 100k boston dynamic that works from morning until evening without breaks is hell of a lot cheaper than paying a lazy sack of meat 50k year.
But they just said it takes breaks frequently
You guys are all delusional and lying to yourselves lol, if they sold a roomba that could paint your floors or the upgraded version that allows you to subscribe to paint your walls, all of you fuckers would be posting pictures of the meme’s you’ve plastered all over your house.
I’m telling you why that robot doesn’t exist. They’re insanely expensive, highly specialized, and require regular maintenance no average person would ever care to give.
Believe me I’d love to live in some kind of post-work society given your basic needs are cared for, it’s just equally delusional to think it’s here or coming from military robots.
Well, I sure would. I fix broken robots for a living and prefer it over house painting.