You are so deluded if you think you being cheap and talking about it on a super niche social platform is what will make change happen. I’d be very cautious about any social justice type move that has direct immediate benefits only to you. Don’t be fooled by the mind’s willingness to justify incentivation - you’re breaking a societal contract for your own benefit and that’s it. Do you have a YouTube channel where you are promoting a movement? Are you writing letters to politicians or are you just 20% richer than the rest of us?
The person you’re arguing with is on the Canadian instance, so likely living in Canada, where servers are paid real wages, not $2.75 or whatever. (If the real wages still aren’t enough to live on, then Canada should probably be raising the minimum wage, rather than tipping a small percentage of their minimum wage workers.)
Honestly, they might have a point. If we collectively decide to stop tipping even the low wage wait service workers it might prompt a change since those restaurants wouldn’t be able to retain staff while only paying $2 to $3 an hour.
However you are correct that expressing this on a niche platform like Lemmy isn’t going to get a whole lot of traction.
It’s not “fuck the working class” it’s a matter of trying to encourage people to stop accepting a shit wage in return for a perceived benefit that doesn’t actually manifest for most of them.
Ideally we would have a law changing things but we can’t even get a decent update to the regular minimum wage much less an alteration to the way servers are paid. So, hypothetically, if we were to collectively agree to stop giving in to the pressure to pay tips as a mediocre compensation for employers not paying a decent wage, people may stop taking those jobs and seek employment with places that pay decent hourly instead.
Again, all of this is basically a thought experiment since no one is going to do any of this. But hey, if tips stop being lavish enough to live on just naturally due to a reaction to inflation, that might spur a change as well.
You are so deluded if you think you being cheap and talking about it on a super niche social platform is what will make change happen. I’d be very cautious about any social justice type move that has direct immediate benefits only to you. Don’t be fooled by the mind’s willingness to justify incentivation - you’re breaking a societal contract for your own benefit and that’s it. Do you have a YouTube channel where you are promoting a movement? Are you writing letters to politicians or are you just 20% richer than the rest of us?
The person you’re arguing with is on the Canadian instance, so likely living in Canada, where servers are paid real wages, not $2.75 or whatever. (If the real wages still aren’t enough to live on, then Canada should probably be raising the minimum wage, rather than tipping a small percentage of their minimum wage workers.)
Yeah, people like you would see not getting ripped off as “being cheap.”
Honestly, they might have a point. If we collectively decide to stop tipping even the low wage wait service workers it might prompt a change since those restaurants wouldn’t be able to retain staff while only paying $2 to $3 an hour.
However you are correct that expressing this on a niche platform like Lemmy isn’t going to get a whole lot of traction.
And yet again the working class decides “fuck the working class” instead of “eat the rich.”
It’s not “fuck the working class” it’s a matter of trying to encourage people to stop accepting a shit wage in return for a perceived benefit that doesn’t actually manifest for most of them.
Ideally we would have a law changing things but we can’t even get a decent update to the regular minimum wage much less an alteration to the way servers are paid. So, hypothetically, if we were to collectively agree to stop giving in to the pressure to pay tips as a mediocre compensation for employers not paying a decent wage, people may stop taking those jobs and seek employment with places that pay decent hourly instead.
Again, all of this is basically a thought experiment since no one is going to do any of this. But hey, if tips stop being lavish enough to live on just naturally due to a reaction to inflation, that might spur a change as well.