If people were payed more most of those problems would evaporate. There used to be a middle class in this country that made enough money to justify dealing with their boss’s bullshit expectations. Now everyone is getting the bare minimum and management wonders why they’re getting minimum effort. If you want people to have a better work ethic it has to be worth it for them. Dangle a fuckin carrot once in a while, you know?
If money was an issue, I would simply find a higher paying job. I’m not owed anything. I’m trying to do the best I can just like everybody else. I’ve never agreed 100% with what management does. I’m just happy to have a decent job that pays decently. I wasn’t handed this automatically. I worked my way up to it. I earned it.
I’m not saying you didn’t work to get where you are, but if you ignore completely the chance and luck you had, then you’re just arguing in bad faith.
Even more so if you can’t see that people entering the workforce now have less chances and need more luck to get where you feel you worked hard to get.
I don’t rely on luck. Too risky. I do what I have to do and use what I’m given to make the best of my situation. Complaining and blaming others got me nowhere. I’m simply pointing out what I’ve witnessed over the last three decades.
The fact that I am using my high tech device to entertain myself by replying to your comment that you made using your high tech device to entertain yourself means that we are both in the upper percentiles of luckiest humans to ever have lived.
I am sitting at my engineering job that I really like as I type this. I have a bachelors degree and two masters degrees. I have worked for this shit, and I have pushed through my chronic disease despite seeing images of the literal brain damage I have from it. I am STILL extremely fortunate to be where I am. Most humans who have ever been born literally had no path to get here regardless of their health or upbringing. And I’d guess that the same is true for a majority of today’s living humans.
And I do not mean those statements with a negative connotation. You should take some of that innate positive outlook you have for the world and develop a feeling of being grateful for your good fortune in life. It’s literally good for you.
To pretend that your situation is solely because of your positive attributes as an individual is pretty arrogant and not conducive to personal growth.
Ok. So why would I live my daily life with a guilt complex? Yes I realize I wasn’t born into a slave labor camp in North Korea. But why would I dwell on that? I’m focused on my current situation. And trying to make that better
I’m focused on my current situation. And trying to make that better
Well, you’re doing that, but you’re also passing judgement on others (those you called out with your original “work ethic” comments) and painting them with a brush of laziness, or at the extreme, unethical behavior.
Ok. So why would I live my daily life with a guilt complex? Yes I realize I wasn’t born into a slave labor camp in North Korea. But why would I dwell on that?
This isn’t an effort to try to make you feel guilty for the luck you’ve had, its attempting to help you realize that not everyone has had the opportunities you have had in the past or continue to have. North Korea is an extreme example. It doesn’t need to be that extreme for someone to have not reached your levels of success even with the same level of effort on their part. A level of humility is important because it lets you recognize, in some capacity, you’ve had help getting where you are. That’s not something to be ashamed of either. Its something to be thankful for. More importantly, that others need help too and you may be in a position to contribute to that help in some major or minor way today or some point in the future.
Seems to me more like you’re focused on how the younger generation doesn’t work hard enough, they aren’t where you are. Definitely proof they don’t work as hard as you to get where you are.
I don’t rely on luck. Too risky. I do what I have to do and use what I’m given to make the best of my situation.
You may not rely on luck, but do you recognize that you are at least the beneficiary of luck? You could be the exact same person you are born at two different times (or even the same time in two different geographies), and have drastically different opportunities available to you.
If people were payed more most of those problems would evaporate. There used to be a middle class in this country that made enough money to justify dealing with their boss’s bullshit expectations. Now everyone is getting the bare minimum and management wonders why they’re getting minimum effort. If you want people to have a better work ethic it has to be worth it for them. Dangle a fuckin carrot once in a while, you know?
If money was an issue, I would simply find a higher paying job. I’m not owed anything. I’m trying to do the best I can just like everybody else. I’ve never agreed 100% with what management does. I’m just happy to have a decent job that pays decently. I wasn’t handed this automatically. I worked my way up to it. I earned it.
I’m not saying you didn’t work to get where you are, but if you ignore completely the chance and luck you had, then you’re just arguing in bad faith.
Even more so if you can’t see that people entering the workforce now have less chances and need more luck to get where you feel you worked hard to get.
I don’t rely on luck. Too risky. I do what I have to do and use what I’m given to make the best of my situation. Complaining and blaming others got me nowhere. I’m simply pointing out what I’ve witnessed over the last three decades.
The fact that I am using my high tech device to entertain myself by replying to your comment that you made using your high tech device to entertain yourself means that we are both in the upper percentiles of luckiest humans to ever have lived.
I am sitting at my engineering job that I really like as I type this. I have a bachelors degree and two masters degrees. I have worked for this shit, and I have pushed through my chronic disease despite seeing images of the literal brain damage I have from it. I am STILL extremely fortunate to be where I am. Most humans who have ever been born literally had no path to get here regardless of their health or upbringing. And I’d guess that the same is true for a majority of today’s living humans.
And I do not mean those statements with a negative connotation. You should take some of that innate positive outlook you have for the world and develop a feeling of being grateful for your good fortune in life. It’s literally good for you.
To pretend that your situation is solely because of your positive attributes as an individual is pretty arrogant and not conducive to personal growth.
Sure…I see your point. But I’m not gonna take my paycheck and go to the casino on the off chance I could double my money.
That is not what was meant by anyone here mentioning luck. I would think any reasonable person would understand this.
Ok. So why would I live my daily life with a guilt complex? Yes I realize I wasn’t born into a slave labor camp in North Korea. But why would I dwell on that? I’m focused on my current situation. And trying to make that better
Well, you’re doing that, but you’re also passing judgement on others (those you called out with your original “work ethic” comments) and painting them with a brush of laziness, or at the extreme, unethical behavior.
This isn’t an effort to try to make you feel guilty for the luck you’ve had, its attempting to help you realize that not everyone has had the opportunities you have had in the past or continue to have. North Korea is an extreme example. It doesn’t need to be that extreme for someone to have not reached your levels of success even with the same level of effort on their part. A level of humility is important because it lets you recognize, in some capacity, you’ve had help getting where you are. That’s not something to be ashamed of either. Its something to be thankful for. More importantly, that others need help too and you may be in a position to contribute to that help in some major or minor way today or some point in the future.
Seems to me more like you’re focused on how the younger generation doesn’t work hard enough, they aren’t where you are. Definitely proof they don’t work as hard as you to get where you are.
You may not rely on luck, but do you recognize that you are at least the beneficiary of luck? You could be the exact same person you are born at two different times (or even the same time in two different geographies), and have drastically different opportunities available to you.