• @OccamsTeapot
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    12 days ago

    How many million people didn’t vote? And how many million would Harris have needed?

    Not voting is a choice and clearly it can be an important one. Their voices exist you just don’t seem to want to listen to what they’re saying.

    • @Nalivai
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      11 day ago

      Last election was one of the active ones. The people who didn’t participate are roughly those who never do. If the prospect of one more Trump presidency didn’t motivate them, they are truly, totally non existant as citizens and frankly as members of society. Their voices exists only as an annoying buzz on social media, and their opinion don’t matter, newer were.

      • @OccamsTeapot
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        117 hours ago

        The people who didn’t participate are roughly those who never do.

        2020:

        Biden - 81.2 million

        Trump - 74.2 million

        2024:

        Harris: 75 million

        Trump: 77.3 million

        Even if we assume Trump took all 3 million extra votes from Biden’s 2020 voters, there are still 3 million Biden 2020 voters who didn’t turn out for Harris. They cared enough to vote against Trump the 2nd time, just not this time.

        Anyway, you are right in the sense that those few million likely wouldn’t have tipped the election anyway. You are dead wrong that they don’t matter. Completely counterproductive lesson to take from the election

          • @OccamsTeapot
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            12 hours ago

            Interesting link! Weird takeaway though. For one, it’s 67% consistently voting or not, 2/3 vs 4/5 is a big difference. Second, look at 2020. People who didn’t usually vote were most likely to vote then and they swayed dem. Probably because Trump was bad enough to make them more passionate about voting.

            This shows that about a third of voters are intermittent and therefore available if people get them excited enough. I’m not saying it’s a good thing (it’s not), I’m just saying it’s a thing. Acting like they’re not important is turning your back on the people who could ultimately sway elections.

            And that’s before we think about how many of the consistent non voters are apathetic vs how many just don’t have anyone they feel represents them.