Hello everyone,

Thinking about this as the on-boarding experience on Lemmy can be subpar, especially because new joiners have to

In order to avoid this, what would you think of having a “new joiners” instance, where

  • hexbear, lemmygrad and ml would be defederated
  • politics and news communities would be blocked at the instance level

That could help to onboard people, so that the first time they look around, they see more gardening, cute comics and casual conversation rather than another set of depressing memes.

Disclaimer: politics and societal issues are important and should be discussed extensively (they are quite popular on Lemmy, let’s be honest). I’m not advocating to hide them all, just to not show them as the first content people potentially interested in Lemmy would see.

  • @[email protected]
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    3023 hours ago

    Unfortunately everything is inherently political, but I can see the value of an instance that favors mainstream low controversial content.

      • @BradleyUffner
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        131 minutes ago

        Your choice of using synthetic yarn rather than the superior animal based product shows how woke you really are!

      • @[email protected]
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        2423 hours ago

        Do you want to discuss the relationship between class and time-intense hobbies? Between learning/onboarding opportunites and race? The intersection of race, class, and hobbies? The ethics and economics of the sourcing of wool?

        • snooggums
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          1622 hours ago

          Just because there are aspects that can be political doesn’t mean a hobby itself is political.

          I mean digging a hole can be a threat under specific circumstances but that doesn’t mean that all digging of holes is inherently threatening.

            • snooggums
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              316 hours ago

              The idea that anything could be political is good for keeping an open mind, but it is not inherently true without making ‘political’ so vague to be meaningless.

              Rain is not political. How we use rainfall can be political, as well as the impact global warming has on rainfall payterns. That doesn’t make rain itself political.

              • @[email protected]
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                15 hours ago

                I take your point.

                A water molecule is not inherently political, there is no ‘politics’ one can observe under an electron microscope.

                However, I am approaching from the perspective that humans are perceiving that water. And given that humans are political with everything then all actions/perceptions humans have are political.

              • @[email protected]
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                15 hours ago

                This game is a good thought experiment that you can play yourself.

                It can help to see connections and interests in all the different facets of society.

                I’ll help you out with the stick community though (I’m sure you can think of lots of other examples of how it’s political):

                Take a wood product into a country with strict quarantine.

                Maybe one of those sticks was removed from a protected area.

                Try carry that stick into a secure area, suddenly it’s a weapon. You don’t agree? Better argue your case to politicians who wrote those laws.

        • Blaze (he/him)OP
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          922 hours ago

          Reminds me when someone told me that [email protected] was political due to the way plants are managed in flats.

          Fine, if the “political” label isn’t appropriate (which could indeed be the case), how about “stress inducing”?

        • crimeschneck∈🇩🇪⊂🇪🇺
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          521 hours ago

          It’s hard for me to tell if this comment is sarcastic or not. Considering we’re on Lemmy, I guess it’s serious? But it really feels like it’s straight from a skit.

          • Elevator7009
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            I read it as a series of rhetorical questions intended to illustrate how crochet is political, even if nobody is going in with the intent of being political (e.g. a crochet group specifically for PoliticalPartyNameHereMembers, people creating crochet projects showing support for this or that politician’s platform).

            That said, if they approached me at a crochet group asking me those questions I would feel very uncomfortable. And then I’d torture myself over okay but are they doing that because the discomfort is needed to encourage you to make a change for the better? Or are they just enjoying making me feel bad for having enough privilege to have a hobby? Or am I just presuming bad intent on their part so I do not have to face the uncomfortable thing and make an inconvenient change? My own shocker I’m not white guilt complex may or may not be showing—I’m painfully aware how bad others have it while 1) I don’t have it nearly as bad through no merit of my own but mere chance, and 2) I don’t dedicate my every waking hour to optimizing these less fortunate peoples’ outcomes. I guess what I was trying to get at here is, point gotten that crochet is political, but (perhaps because of my own personal hangups, as well as the usual issues involved in reading tone online, with no tone of voice or body language to guide us) it also reads kind of confrontational instead of just calmly informative.