In an unexpected mask off “secure” email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton’s services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let’s collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

Edit:typo

  • @TCB13English
    19•1 month ago

    This is amazing. People were perfectly okay with ignoring all the red flags in Proton and their products and really okay with buying all their bullshit, then a tweet saying Trump comes up and that’s it. lol

    • @RubberElectrons
      32•1 month ago

      🤷 sometimes people grumble quietly until a final straw is added to the stack. Not surprising.

      • @TCB13English
        -1•1 month ago

        What a piss of an excuse that is ahah

          • @TCB13English
            -1•1 month ago

            And since when did I offend you? Unless… you’ve been “grumble quietly until a final straw is added to the stack”

      • From_D4rkness
        21•10 days ago

        From what I recall, the red flags included stuff like giving the IP away of activists, having access to private keys while claiming e2e, and taking more info than they claim. I am busy atm, but i can find some links to sources when I get a chance.

        edit: here is the link I said that I would find: from Hacker News

        The Switzerland-based company said it received a “legally binding order from the Swiss Federal Department of Justice” related to a collective called Youth for Climate, which it was “obligated to comply with,” compelling it to handover the IP address and information related to the type of device used by the group to access the ProtonMail account.