In an unexpected mask off “secure” email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton’s services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let’s collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here 🔐👇

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

Edit:typo

    • @[email protected]
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      68 hours ago

      I use and like posteo but their refusal to allow custom domain names, for in my opinion dubious reasons, should not go unmentioned.

      • @ShotDonkeyOP
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        89 hours ago

        No, anyone can use it, payed plans only though (1€ p month min)

      • @[email protected]
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        39 hours ago

        It’s not limited to German users, but those might be especially inclined since it’s a Berlin-based company 🙂

        • @[email protected]
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          9 hours ago

          I would actually argue that for privacy reasons when choosing an email provider you should go for one outside of the country you live in, even better go for one in a country that wouldn’t comply with your country’s court requests for data.

          Edit: ac corrected actually to factually lol

          • @[email protected]
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            18 hours ago

            Wouldn’t a provider that doesn’t comply with my country, instead comply with a lot more shady entities requests?

            • @[email protected]
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              28 hours ago

              Shady entities outside your own country maybe. But shouldn’t you be more worried about the ones in your own country?

                • @[email protected]
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                  12 hours ago

                  Same tbh but if something DOES happen - I think zone.ee is more likely to respond to some Estonian org’s threats than Hetzner - and I think Zone would also likely become a target first.