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    13 days ago

    Oh, sorry i thought its about EV’s. I recently bought a car and thought about getting a Audi A3 Plugin Hybrid but decided for the toyota Corolla hybrid because I couldnt charge it at home and driving out to Charge + drive out to get fuel is kinda annoying. And it still says that the A3 would need like 14.7KWH + 0,3L / 100km so its really not cheaper by a factor of 3 or 4 but rather by 1.2

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      I still don’t get it. If you drive the a3 without ever plugging it in you’d have exactly the same driving experience as with the corolla, with the car charging just from the energy it gets from the combustion engine. You don’t have to charge it, you know? It’d be an option you just don’t have now.

      Also, the small phev batteries can often easily be charged while doing something else. Groceries, shopping, theater, whatever. They’re small enough to fill up quickly even on slower AC chargers, so charging at home is even less of a requirement for a phev than for a bev.

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        13 days ago

        The A3 costs like 10k more (New price). With similar age/KM as mine they are like 7k more (not many on the market tbh). And if I had 20k and really wanted to save the enviorenment and reduce my Co2 output I would buy a old used car for 5k and plant trees for 15k.

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          Just don’t pick a premium brand to compare it against a bread-and-butter car? Kia, Peugeot, Opel, even Toyota offer cheaper phevs than Audi. If you really want to save money, just don’t buy a car at all. But as before, you’re changing topics.

          Your point wasn’t affordability. I was saying that mild hybrids don’t make sense because they sacrifice the option to use external electricity to charge to achieve literally nothing else instead. You can drive any phev just like a mild hybrid and lose nothing, but as soon as you get a mild hybrid you lose even the option to charge it. You keep bringing up other points that are not connected in any way to this.

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            13 days ago

            I think the toyota corolla is a cool car and it doesnt exist as a plugin hybrid was my main reason for buying it. Other than that, the Toyota C-HR exists as mild hybrid and as plugin hybrid and the plugin hybrid is 6k € more expensive (new).

            Yes using it without charging it would be almost the same as a mild hybrid but the cars are literally more expensive.

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              Okay, if it’s just cost for new car msrp, I get it.

              I mean, I don’t get why it’s not an ice then, but whatever.