I don’t see what the issue is here. They don’t want to be treated as a utility, but if they stay in New York, they’ll be regulated as a utility. They’ve dealt with it as a phone provider, and choose not to engage in the regulatory environment being put in front of them. It’s a totally reasonable choice for a business to walk away from a market if the cost of doing business would exceed the profits made.
That’s correct, and the fact that Apple caved from the 8-Pin Lightning connector to USB-C is one of many, many reasons I won’t be buying anything Apple again, even second-hand. The lack of a headphone jack is just one more thing that made me certain of it. If I could find a micro-USB device with a headphone jack that serves as a phone, a pager, a calculator, and an audio (various formats - MP2A,MP3A,MP4A,WAV, FLAC, OGG, WMA, etc.) player, all my problems would be solved. I have looked into featurephones, I think I’m going to be moving in that direction next time I upgrade.
fuck apple forever, for sure, because they’re proprietary from soup to nuts. but “caved” moving to a universal standard instead of a proprietary charging cable, as if that’s a bad thing? yeah, man, i dunno what you’re smokin, but you should put the pipe down.
USB is so so so so so so so much worse than Lightning. Yes Apple is one of the only companies who manages to implement it so it mostly works, but it was still a huge downgrade.
Personally I’d be happy if I never had to touch a micro-USB device ever again. Mini-USB is somewhat acceptable, but USB-C blows the rest out of the water. It’s unquestionably the better USB standard
Micro USB was definitely horrid. The USB C connector is OK agreed other than the gender is on the wrong sides which still causes reliability issues vs lightning. And USB is such a mess, no mortal has any hope of knowing what the usb c port they have will actually do.
Find me a USB-C that doesn’t fall out. Every Micro-USB male plug that I’ve used has those two notches at the bottom that hold it in place. Every device I’ve had with USB-C, I have to treat it like it’s super delicate while it charges.
You need to clean your usb c port. Get a match, and carve it down go a thin flat end that will fit between the blade of the usb c. Then clean out the lint. The charging cable should click into place if it’s cleaned out.
I have maybe a few dozen USB C devices all from dumb 5V/2A chargers to 20V/5A chargers. From USB 5GB to USB 40GB. Never once have I ever had issue with the cables and connectors. Only time I’ve had an issue was when I dropped my phone into the charging cable where it physically broke off.
Meanwhile I’ve had an iPhone for 4 years and the lightning connector broke in such a way I had to use hot glue to pull it out of the port.
Yep, every micro usb charging port I ever had eventually failed. And because the gender was opposite how lightning works you have to replace the port/device instead of just getting a new cable. It was horrid.
Sorry, old terminology strikes again. I call any thin portable computer without an ODD or FDD a netbook; because all the damn things are good for is getting on the Internet. My actual laptop, I’ve had to do physical modding to the case to give it an ODD (and it still uses a USB port because of laziness).
I can literally swing my phone around with its USB C charge cable. As long as I don’t add enough speed for it to make full circles instead of swinging back and forth, it doesn’t drop. If I drop my phone and the cord isn’t long enough to reach the ground, even the sharp stop of ‘no more cord’ tends to not remove the plug.
I’ve never had a USB C plug fall out in my entire life, but I have distinct memories of wrapping a micro USB cord around the phone so the plug would maybe make some sort of connection and charge. Same with whatever plug the Nintendo DS used.
Do you have shit devices or shit cords? Because one of the two is causing the problem.
I don’t see what the issue is here. They don’t want to be treated as a utility, but if they stay in New York, they’ll be regulated as a utility. They’ve dealt with it as a phone provider, and choose not to engage in the regulatory environment being put in front of them. It’s a totally reasonable choice for a business to walk away from a market if the cost of doing business would exceed the profits made.
Apple could have done the same thing with the EU. Either don’t put USB-C on their phones, or cease doing business in those countries.
That’s correct, and the fact that Apple caved from the 8-Pin Lightning connector to USB-C is one of many, many reasons I won’t be buying anything Apple again, even second-hand. The lack of a headphone jack is just one more thing that made me certain of it. If I could find a micro-USB device with a headphone jack that serves as a phone, a pager, a calculator, and an audio (various formats - MP2A,MP3A,MP4A,WAV, FLAC, OGG, WMA, etc.) player, all my problems would be solved. I have looked into featurephones, I think I’m going to be moving in that direction next time I upgrade.
fuck apple forever, for sure, because they’re proprietary from soup to nuts. but “caved” moving to a universal standard instead of a proprietary charging cable, as if that’s a bad thing? yeah, man, i dunno what you’re smokin, but you should put the pipe down.
USB is so so so so so so so much worse than Lightning. Yes Apple is one of the only companies who manages to implement it so it mostly works, but it was still a huge downgrade.
Slowly since glass pipes tend to break.
Personally I’d be happy if I never had to touch a micro-USB device ever again. Mini-USB is somewhat acceptable, but USB-C blows the rest out of the water. It’s unquestionably the better USB standard
Micro USB was definitely horrid. The USB C connector is OK agreed other than the gender is on the wrong sides which still causes reliability issues vs lightning. And USB is such a mess, no mortal has any hope of knowing what the usb c port they have will actually do.
Find me a USB-C that doesn’t fall out. Every Micro-USB male plug that I’ve used has those two notches at the bottom that hold it in place. Every device I’ve had with USB-C, I have to treat it like it’s super delicate while it charges.
You need to clean your usb c port. Get a match, and carve it down go a thin flat end that will fit between the blade of the usb c. Then clean out the lint. The charging cable should click into place if it’s cleaned out.
But apple had Usb-C years before on IPad these scumbags withhold it only from Iphone so that you had ti buy a sepearate Cable Fuck Apple
I have maybe a few dozen USB C devices all from dumb 5V/2A chargers to 20V/5A chargers. From USB 5GB to USB 40GB. Never once have I ever had issue with the cables and connectors. Only time I’ve had an issue was when I dropped my phone into the charging cable where it physically broke off.
Meanwhile I’ve had an iPhone for 4 years and the lightning connector broke in such a way I had to use hot glue to pull it out of the port.
I’ve had many instances of micro-USB bending, some to the point of breakage. This never happened even once with USB-C.
Yep, every micro usb charging port I ever had eventually failed. And because the gender was opposite how lightning works you have to replace the port/device instead of just getting a new cable. It was horrid.
Very much the opposite. The only broken USB port I’ve ever had was a USB-C port for a netbook charger.
How? The netbook era ended way before USB-C is even a thing.
Sorry, old terminology strikes again. I call any thin portable computer without an ODD or FDD a netbook; because all the damn things are good for is getting on the Internet. My actual laptop, I’ve had to do physical modding to the case to give it an ODD (and it still uses a USB port because of laziness).
I can literally swing my phone around with its USB C charge cable. As long as I don’t add enough speed for it to make full circles instead of swinging back and forth, it doesn’t drop. If I drop my phone and the cord isn’t long enough to reach the ground, even the sharp stop of ‘no more cord’ tends to not remove the plug.
Lucky you. My experience has been the opposite.
I’ve never had a USB C plug fall out in my entire life, but I have distinct memories of wrapping a micro USB cord around the phone so the plug would maybe make some sort of connection and charge. Same with whatever plug the Nintendo DS used.
Do you have shit devices or shit cords? Because one of the two is causing the problem.
Just NOW swapped a failed micro cord, charging only. Never had USB-C fail me. Not that it can’t, but it’s always been far more reliable.
My NDS plug (and 3DS plug) stays in so firmly I’ve had to tug on it. Are we living in Bizarro-land from each other?