Ehhh, I’ve gotten close to Chinese people and a part of it is genuine, talking one on one. However they are also filled with valid criticism for America as well (although I am British and generally tell them to think what they like about the USA, I couldn’t care less).
Things like the Taiwan issue is hard. It’s like “we won’t invade Taiwan” but also “America should stop giving Taiwan weapons to defend itself”. And also usual circular reasoning “Taiwan is our because it just is”
What doesn’t help is western people’s attitudes. Many Chinese people know life in the West is better. But I saw some British people on Xiaohongshu telling Chinese people “don’t come here, we want to leave”. They were telling the Chinese that education is expensive here, yet neglecting to say that our definition of inexpensive education is like other european countries with free university, compared to how it is here where all education is free up until 18, then universities are paid for 3-9k per year on a very generous loan with low interest that is paid off by extra tax and has an expiry date where it’s written off entirely. Or how hard it is to find a job, when China has a far bigger unemployment rate, and those who are employed have to run a ‘rat race’. But life is seemingly better there because they have big cities with mass transit systems and you can order oreos to your house at 3am.
Don’t get me wrong- I think China would actually be really nice to visit as a holiday destination. But I’d hate to actually live and work there.
And that’s not talking about censorship, lack of freedom of thought or the freedom of religion
Edit: Btw, those Chinese students aren’t necessary “brainwashed”.
Valid, and perhaps the “brainwashed” statement was an unfair one, though in at least a couple cases, the emotion behind the words felt very genuine. On the flip side, there was at least one standout conversation with a particular student where the opposite was true, so perhaps each case deserves more nuance than the blanket statement of “they’re brainwashed.”
EDIT: That ban is actually beautiful, btw. The hate the “regulars” perpetuate while going untouched versus bans on comments like this speaks far louder about the belief structure of the mods than any back and fourth with them could.
Ever notice how they frequently respond in pairs as well? Wherever you see one spewing bullshit Marxist quotes and libraries worth of links, you’ll find the other.
Lmao
Try this:
Criticizing the US, Russia, Israel, and Hamas all in one go, gets banned anyways.
Edit: Btw, those Chinese students aren’t necessary “brainwashed”.
There’s a chinese idiom called: 隔墙有耳 (Literally meaning: There’s an ear on the other side of the wall)
They know everyone is watching and listening, so they don’t feel safe speaking what they actually believe, especially not in public.
People criticize the government all the time, behind close doors with people you know.
Getting banned from .ml is a badge of honor!
Don’t even feel bad
That EXE crash error was really coming from the mod lmao
You were supposed to only criticize the US and Russia, you homophobe!
Ehhh, I’ve gotten close to Chinese people and a part of it is genuine, talking one on one. However they are also filled with valid criticism for America as well (although I am British and generally tell them to think what they like about the USA, I couldn’t care less).
Things like the Taiwan issue is hard. It’s like “we won’t invade Taiwan” but also “America should stop giving Taiwan weapons to defend itself”. And also usual circular reasoning “Taiwan is our because it just is”
What doesn’t help is western people’s attitudes. Many Chinese people know life in the West is better. But I saw some British people on Xiaohongshu telling Chinese people “don’t come here, we want to leave”. They were telling the Chinese that education is expensive here, yet neglecting to say that our definition of inexpensive education is like other european countries with free university, compared to how it is here where all education is free up until 18, then universities are paid for 3-9k per year on a very generous loan with low interest that is paid off by extra tax and has an expiry date where it’s written off entirely. Or how hard it is to find a job, when China has a far bigger unemployment rate, and those who are employed have to run a ‘rat race’. But life is seemingly better there because they have big cities with mass transit systems and you can order oreos to your house at 3am.
Don’t get me wrong- I think China would actually be really nice to visit as a holiday destination. But I’d hate to actually live and work there.
And that’s not talking about censorship, lack of freedom of thought or the freedom of religion
Local girls? In my neighborhood?
Valid, and perhaps the “brainwashed” statement was an unfair one, though in at least a couple cases, the emotion behind the words felt very genuine. On the flip side, there was at least one standout conversation with a particular student where the opposite was true, so perhaps each case deserves more nuance than the blanket statement of “they’re brainwashed.”
EDIT: That ban is actually beautiful, btw. The hate the “regulars” perpetuate while going untouched versus bans on comments like this speaks far louder about the belief structure of the mods than any back and fourth with them could.
lol wtf… that comment was not even bad… deff some power trippin going on
the two dudes who lead lemmy development and run both lemmy.ml and lemmygrad both deeply and truly suck at being decent human beings
Ever notice how they frequently respond in pairs as well? Wherever you see one spewing bullshit Marxist quotes and libraries worth of links, you’ll find the other.
I worked on a piece of software where they thought I was the same person as the two other folks, because we spoke/sound alike/had similar timestamps.
Really it was because we’d get group chatted the message and respond at the same time.
Nutonic is second in command of lemmy.ml
Is that real?
My account has extensive “criminal” record with .ml
I am a bit more provocative, top comment here got banned for an a mild opinion lol
they must be getting tired of being drowned out by common sense.
We really should defederate from this shit
I have no idea why it’s taking so long.
Yes, until then we can each do small things like
Crosspost actual decent content in a .ml comm to a non-.ml comm (a perfect opportunity to grow smaller comms)
Call out their BS whenever you see it on other instances
Screenshot their Tankie propaganda and post it here
Advise newcomers
Make memes about it
Downvote any .ml community post you come across and then see 1st point
.world has already defed’d 2 of the 3 of the Tankie Triad, but I’ve been seeing a lot of “sticking heads in the sand”
infosec.pub
defederates the big 3 (lemmygrad.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ml)
You can always choose an instance that does, or block the instance in your settings.