• archomrade [he/him]
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    -413 hours ago

    Denying the self-reported identity of a marginalized person is absolutely bigoted, and those demographics come directly from self-reported polling data.

    Unless you are simply unaware that they conduct their own demographic polling, dismissing those demographics as ‘not real’ is the same thing as accusing those users of lying about being trans

    • @TrickDacy
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      613 hours ago

      I can’t load that link but it’s pretty awesome that they, for the for time in history, conducted a poll casually while managing to get a 100% participation rate. Also impressive that the results were distributed and read by every single Lemmy user, including OP.

      • archomrade [he/him]
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        112 hours ago

        conducted a poll casually while managing to get a 100% participation rate

        It’s been a while since i’ve taken Statistics but i’m pretty sure 40% participation is exceptionally high for a demographic poll.

        • @TrickDacy
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          411 hours ago

          If it weren’t for the pretty glaring selection bias (I think that’s the right term), you’d be right. But it’s pretty easy to imagine that trans people were more interested in responding to that poll than others.

          • archomrade [he/him]
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            111 hours ago

            The resulting error of that selection bias decreases as the sample rate increases - that’s part of the reason why sample rates are a valuable indicator of survey accuracy

            But having that discussion is qualitatively different than dismissing whatever assumptions brought by it by saying ‘I don’t believe it’.

            • @TrickDacy
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              110 hours ago

              Where did you get the idea that OP knew this information and dismissed it? I haven’t seen any evidence of that.

              • archomrade [he/him]
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                010 hours ago

                He knew 50% was the figure in question and he said ‘i don’t believe anything that comes out of hexbear’. Stands to reason he very well did have that information and simply dismissed it for having come from hexbear.

                • @TrickDacy
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                  19 hours ago

                  “figure in question”? I’m asking for specifics. Because all I see is the image in this post.

                  • archomrade [he/him]
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                    07 hours ago

                    You asked how I knew he had that information and dismissed it, and I pointed out he was repeating the information and dismissing it lmao

        • @[email protected]
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          411 hours ago

          Singular, open, surveys online, are rarely good data. This suggests there are a lot of people, in comparison to the general population, who do not identify as definitely CIS, and presents some interesting things to think about. However, the actual scientific value of this survey is pretty poor. Online surveys are particularly bad for academic considerations, especially when there is just one.

          Dude is being a dick though. However saying you doubt the veracity of a single online survey isn’t a clear sign of bigotry. There are many reasons to doubt ANY online survey. If you would like to find out why, you can search something like “are online surveys particularly bad for scientific research”, and you will get a lot of work discussing why this is so.

          • @TrickDacy
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            111 hours ago

            Dude is being a dick though.

            Apparently it’s okay to unequivocally call people transphobes with little to no basis, but sarcasm? Now that is a dick move! /s

          • archomrade [he/him]
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            -111 hours ago

            I’ll just repeat what I said elsewhere:

            Saying “I don’t believe this figure” isn’t born out of a reaction to that information, it’s simply an expression of disbelief that there could possibly be that many trans communists in a community you personally dislike.