• lime!
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    41 month ago

    yeah that’s my point, it’s super easy to bypass the system and they just assume you won’t. but if you don’t know how the system is supposed to work it’s hard to do it right.

    • @[email protected]
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      1 month ago

      There is no bypass.

      Your seat reservation doesn’t entitle you to travel on that train in this class without a valid ticket. You will get a fine if you try to travel with just a seat reservation. And if you don’t pay or are catched multiple times they will initiate criminal proceedings against you

      • @uranibaba
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        61 month ago

        Are you saying that you can buy a reservation without a ticket? That the act to buying a ticket and buying a reservation are two distinct actions?

          • @uranibaba
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            21 month ago

            I saw your other comment. I’ve never seen that before.

            • federal reverseM
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              1 month ago

              That is actually a necessity:

              • To buy a reservation as an add-on after buying a ticket
              • If you’re traveling on a disability certificate, an Interrail ticket or you use BahnCard 100 (i.e. a yearly flatrate ticket)
              • @uranibaba
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                11 month ago

                I would assume that if you have any of those tickets, you would buy the normal way with 100% discount.

      • lime!
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        31 month ago

        but what’s the difference between first and second class except the seat? why not make a seat reservation require a ticket?

        • @[email protected]
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          31 month ago

          The seat (more comfortable, more space) ist the main difference.

          Of course they could check if you have a ticket at the time of purchase, they just don’t. When buying a seat reservation it’s clear it’s not a ticket.

          • lime!
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            11 month ago

            but just entering the ticket number when doing a reservation would be so incredibly easy to add. as it is now, i can buy up seat reservations without even being on the train, forcing multiple people to stand.

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              11 month ago

              It’s more complicated because there’s also time limited (or even unlimited) tickets/passes, but I agree it could be done.

              Seat reservations expire 15 minutes after passing the station. By now all trains have those small displays on the seats which show reservations. They simply turn off after 15 minutes, indicating the seat can be taken by anyone.

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          1 month ago

          There are less seats in the carriage, it is more comfy, you get at-seat dining service, free newspapers, faster Internet, more generally people who behave better and are more quiet, and if you have a flexible ticket Lounge Access