And what is the evidence for it being a Chinese spying platform? Is it owned by a Chinese company? Is there any hard evidence? Why is it so controversial?

  • @[email protected]
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    It’s not about the data harvesting, please stop repeating this falsehood.

    It’s about how China is controlling the algorithm for polical goals. From pushing its claim over Taiwan to interfering with global elections by showing(or hiding) speicifc content to sway peoples choices.

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      So what is considered perfectly fine for Facebook and Twitter to do, got it

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          They all suck, yeah. I think banning individual social media services is not the solution. The solution is to create meaningful laws that hold any company, Chinese or American, accountable for data privacy and misinformation/election interference violations.

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            Funny you say that, because Chinese apps like tiktok can’t ever be compliant with GDPR, and American ones are fully reliant on an executive order where Biden pinky swore to not use the Cloud Act against GDPR.

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            That wouldn’t solve the problem because the Chinese government is not bound by US law in China.

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                Yes, which doesn’t solve the problem because the problem is in China. The Chinese government can demand any information that ByteDance possesses. Under Chinese law, they are bound to comply and bound to deny that they were even asked under threat of extremely harsh punishment.

                • @AA5B
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                  It does solve the problem at least as far as then you’d have legal standing to ban til too, and equally anything else that doesn’t follow the law

                • @theunknownmuncher
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                  I would expect a meaningful data privacy law would involve forcing the client software to be audited to ensure they aren’t collecting the information in the first place?

                  • @[email protected]
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                    You’re conflating privacy and espionage. The reason basically every country in the world has laws about foreign ownership of media and telecommunications infrastructure is not because of privacy concerns – it’s because of the potential for espionage. That fanciful law with no chance of passing in the US (even if it should!) would reduce but not eliminate the problem. It’s illegal for China to operate weird little secret police stations in foreign countries to threaten, intimidate, and control the Chinese diaspora, but that hasn’t stopped them from doing it. Having them control powerful monitoring and tracking tools doesn’t make it harder. They are very capable of surreptitiously doing shit they shouldn’t.

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      310 hours ago

      I mean, that’s exactly what Facebook and YouTube and Twitter do as well just over different things like radicalizing people towards Maga and whatnot.

      • @[email protected]
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        Facebook and You tube haven’t been pushing Maga content, they’re just allowing it to exist. The feed itself isn’t set to give it to everyone or hide left-wing content for a default user.

        Twitter is a different story, and should probably also get banned at this point. Elon is absolutely using it to push his own rhetoric.