Biden was the first president since LBJ who actually gave some of a shit about the working class
… like, even in your defense of Biden, he only gave some of a shit. Not even a full one.
Joking aside, I think you need to think long and hard as to why you can’t just say “He was great president.” You’re not comparing him to LBJ. Not comparing his actions to Biden’s or his cabinet to Biden, or his bills to Biden. You’re literally one step above saying “Well Biden has at least done something since the time of LBJ” That’s a VERY low bar, may as well just be the floor.
Basically I think he failed to realize that nobody gives a shit if the people at the very bottom end of the scale are making way more money
Where is that in your link? Is that your jobs an unemployment sections? That’s not the poorest of the poor. The unemployment numbers often don’t reflect people who are homeless. They’re woefully inept in a lot of ways. It also clashes with the “Record high after record high on Wall Street” section.
corruption and inaction is going to hamper whoever the president is, whether it be Biden or Bernie Sanders or Che Guevara. How you solve that problem, I don’t know. But certainly, throwing one of them who did seem to moderately care about the working class unapologetically to the wolves, denying he did anything at all, and bashing him at every opportunity, isn’t exactly going to help.
Verdant Banana’s not throwing Biden under the bus though. The only people in this article are Abby Vesoulis and Faiz Shakir. If anybody is being thrown it’s them.
If anything, you and Banana seem to agree that corruption and inaction is going to hamper the DNC and don’t know how to solve it. Banana just has given up hope it ever will.
… like, even in your defense of Biden, he only gave some of a shit. Not even a full one.
Joking aside, I think you need to think long and hard as to why you can’t just say “He was great president.”
I think you need to read the rest of my sentence, the part that you cut off when you quoted it. He raised wages, for workers at the very bottom end of the American working person scale, by 30+%. Inflation that wasn’t his fault ate up about 20% of that. But, it was a pretty big fucking deal. I’m tepid about saying “he was a great president” because I would rather have Bernie Sanders, or maybe someone who wouldn’t be so enthusiastic about arming Israel, but that doesn’t mean I’m committed to pretending that he did nothing at all for the working people in this country, or that the bar is on the floor.
Or rather, better analogy, the bar was in the damn basement, and he raised it up to the top few steps of the stairs. That’s definitely not enough, but it’s also a hell of a lot more than nothing.
Where is that in your link? Is that your jobs an unemployment sections?
It’s not in my link. I just grabbed something that seemed to give a pretty balanced picture. They only talk about wages in qualitative terms. Here, this talks about it in terms of numbers:
That 13.2% real wage growth is about 34% un-adjusted wage growth, on top of about 20% cumulative inflation. Something along those lines.
Verdant Banana’s not throwing Biden under the bus though.
Yes he is. “horseshit” “Democrats never have anything to show at the end of the day”.
I’m actually not trying to be the “rah rah Biden” guy. I just keep finding myself in that role, because the truth is different from what people like to say a lot of the time, and that’s irritating to me. Sorry if it is confusing to you that I am neither saying “Biden’s great on everything!” or “Biden’s terrible on everything!” like I’m employed for one side or another. The election’s over, anyway. It’s just residual pissed-off-ness from seeing people spouting off a bunch of emotionally satisfying untruth-stuff about how the only guy in the last 40 years who actually wandered into our robber-baron governmental system and somehow managed to move the needle back a little bit in the right direction is a huge piece of shit.
… like, even in your defense of Biden, he only gave some of a shit. Not even a full one.
Joking aside, I think you need to think long and hard as to why you can’t just say “He was great president.” You’re not comparing him to LBJ. Not comparing his actions to Biden’s or his cabinet to Biden, or his bills to Biden. You’re literally one step above saying “Well Biden has at least done something since the time of LBJ” That’s a VERY low bar, may as well just be the floor.
Where is that in your link? Is that your jobs an unemployment sections? That’s not the poorest of the poor. The unemployment numbers often don’t reflect people who are homeless. They’re woefully inept in a lot of ways. It also clashes with the “Record high after record high on Wall Street” section.
Verdant Banana’s not throwing Biden under the bus though. The only people in this article are Abby Vesoulis and Faiz Shakir. If anybody is being thrown it’s them.
If anything, you and Banana seem to agree that corruption and inaction is going to hamper the DNC and don’t know how to solve it. Banana just has given up hope it ever will.
I think you need to read the rest of my sentence, the part that you cut off when you quoted it. He raised wages, for workers at the very bottom end of the American working person scale, by 30+%. Inflation that wasn’t his fault ate up about 20% of that. But, it was a pretty big fucking deal. I’m tepid about saying “he was a great president” because I would rather have Bernie Sanders, or maybe someone who wouldn’t be so enthusiastic about arming Israel, but that doesn’t mean I’m committed to pretending that he did nothing at all for the working people in this country, or that the bar is on the floor.
Or rather, better analogy, the bar was in the damn basement, and he raised it up to the top few steps of the stairs. That’s definitely not enough, but it’s also a hell of a lot more than nothing.
It’s not in my link. I just grabbed something that seemed to give a pretty balanced picture. They only talk about wages in qualitative terms. Here, this talks about it in terms of numbers:
https://www.epi.org/publication/swa-wages-2023/
That 13.2% real wage growth is about 34% un-adjusted wage growth, on top of about 20% cumulative inflation. Something along those lines.
Yes he is. “horseshit” “Democrats never have anything to show at the end of the day”.
I’m actually not trying to be the “rah rah Biden” guy. I just keep finding myself in that role, because the truth is different from what people like to say a lot of the time, and that’s irritating to me. Sorry if it is confusing to you that I am neither saying “Biden’s great on everything!” or “Biden’s terrible on everything!” like I’m employed for one side or another. The election’s over, anyway. It’s just residual pissed-off-ness from seeing people spouting off a bunch of emotionally satisfying untruth-stuff about how the only guy in the last 40 years who actually wandered into our robber-baron governmental system and somehow managed to move the needle back a little bit in the right direction is a huge piece of shit.
It just comes naturally.