• @NineMileTower
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    17112 days ago

    How does this help men and women? I know how it hurts people, but who is HELPED by this?

    • Nougat
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      14112 days ago

      Fascists.

      Edit: Whenever the question is “Who could possibly be helped by this?” the answer is “Fascists.”

        • @macarthur_park
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          Fascists need an “other” to demonize. They delight in the cruelty towards the “other”. The executive order gives them a sense of accomplishment, further strengthening the group bonds as they enjoy the suffering of the “other” together.

          It really is as simple as “the cruelty is the point”. It helps them because they desire to inflict cruelty, and this gives them a method for doing so.

          • @NocturnalMorning
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            2412 days ago

            I don’t think he delights in anything but having people tell him how great he is. This is textbook fascism. You got the part right thay they need an other group to demonize, just don’t think there is even that much depth to them.

            • @macarthur_park
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              Oh I should have been more clear: Trump’s supporters delight in cruelty towards others. You’re right that Trump just does whatever makes his supporters cheer for him; he’s a textbook narcissist who craves attention. “Build the wall” for example, was a talking point his advisers gave him. He apparently thought it was stupid, but when his crowds of supporters cheered for it he went on to make it central to his campaign and identity.

            • @[email protected]
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              And the lesson the rank-and-file never seem to learn is once the other is eliminated, the fascists always turn inward, and begin eliminating each other. Unfortunately, their death toll is always quite high once they implode – sometimes in the millions.

              It’s a death cult, though, and no matter how white or pious or privileged you think you are, they will come for you once they run out of ‘proper’ enemies, because without an enemy, fascism is nothing.

        • Nougat
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          3712 days ago

          Because it is a clear demonstration of “We can do whatever the fuck we want, and you can’t stop us,” as well as a warning: “Don’t piss us off, or we’re going to do it to you next.”

          [email protected]

          Edit: Also a message to other fascists: “You can do whatever you want, and they can’t stop you.”

        • @[email protected]
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          It gives justification for discrimination. To make people who disagree or are affected less than human and thus atrocities against them do not count as atrocities.

          No different than colonization or slavery. “We know better and will show them the error of their ways/put them in their place by force and systematic discrimination”.

        • Snot Flickerman
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          612 days ago

          Denying science and memory holing it is actually massively beneficial for them.

      • @NineMileTower
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        712 days ago

        No, not at all, but typically politicians frame it that way. They gave up on that, I guess. Now it’s just who can I hurt.

        • @[email protected]
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          There’s loads of historical examples of policies in acted to hurt people

          …because those people are “inferior” people

    • @[email protected]
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      I have a joke about this:

      Someone once asked a Republican what he thought about a shooting in a Queer bar, he responded “thats horrible, I hear a Muslim did it. Those dirty savages will never integrate with western values”.

      So the person responded “oh so do you care about queer people now?”, he responded “of course not, they harm womens rights”.

      So the person responded “oh so do you support womens rights now?”, he responded “of course not, I think the rights of children should take precedence”.

      So he responded “oh so do you care about the children now?”, he responded “of course not, they’re leaches on society. I only support hardworking Americans”.

      So he responded “Oh so do you support workers rights now?”, he responded “of course not, workers today are lazy, I support only the good religious Jewish and Christian workers”

      So he responded “Oh so do you support Jewish people now?”, he responded “Of course not, I hear they’re extremely Islamaphobic”

      So he responded “Oh so do you support Muslim people now?”, he responded “of course not, I hear one of them shot up a queer bar”

    • @DicJacobus
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      212 days ago

      Owning the libs is his raison de terre.

      if it makes amorphous enemies mad, then its worth it.

      • @NineMileTower
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        1612 days ago

        Reason of earth? I think it’s “Rasion d’etre”

        • @DicJacobus
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          812 days ago

          thanks. lol. I thought something was wrong with it but was too busy to check