For context, it’s a very clear Nazi Salute — and Musk did it more than once. The NYT is implying doubt because they’re afraid of losing access if they speak the truth and because some people who are financially dependent on Musk are denying what it was in public.
It’s not normalizing a damn thing to point out that the Dems and their policies are so impressively unpopular with a broad swathe of voting Americans that they looked at what we were offering, looked back at crazy trump rambling about Haitians eating pets and decided that that was preferable to another Democratic president.
Holding onto this fantasy of “oh the swathes of non voters will one day turn out for us!” is goddamn nonsense that has never come through and is just so much cheap hopium so we don’t do any of the difficult soul searching to figure out how to win elections. Far easier to pretend people secretly wanted the Dems or that everyone else is a secret nazi or whatever stupidity we’re onto.
OK but how does lying about the reality help anything? And why are you sooo keen to do so?
What on Earth have I lied about?
You said more than half the country voted for Trump, and then when corrected started throwing a moronic temper tantrum saying that it doesn’t matter. Why are so against accuracy in your statements?
In a conversation about voting, it is pretty safe to assume we’re talking about voters.
If people are talking about voters do you need it clarified we’re talking about living Americans of voting age too or are do you have negative common sense?
Edit: heck, forgot to specify we are only talking about humans. Hope that didn’t cause undue confusion!
When turnout affects the result election to election, potential voters and active voters is a meaningful distinction. It’s fine not to specify, but it’s just sad to get so bent out of shape over someone adding precision to a claim.
Making fun of you is getting bent out of shape? For someone whining about precision…
But also, if you’re going to argue that turnout matters etc then you are implicitly suggesting those who did not vote for trump by doing so which essentially means even more living American humans of voting age and eligible to vote in the 2024 American Presidential election at least tacitly supported Donald J Trump.
Being pedantic is very different than being correct.
Edit: added in clarifications that are unnecessary for most functional adults just to make sure you don’t get confused. You’re welcome!
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Exactly how most feel when someone rocks a “well ackchyually” on something that’s self evident from context.