• @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    -191 day ago

    Nope. There was no genocide-free option. The Democratic Party failed catastrophically; it’s on them, not those who abstained from voting for garbage vs garbage.

    Expecting voters to just pick the lesser of two evils forever is how we allow the rich and those with a big platform to slowly shift both parties’ politics in their favour. Some people see this zero-sum game for what it is and refuse to partake (vote). The only way to fix this at this point is by revolting.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        -422 hours ago

        I am not American or in the USA, so no.

        But we have had a pretty similar experience with the 2 dominant political parties here in the UK, albeit to a smaller extent. I cancelled my Labour Party membership back in 2019, when I realised they’d rebranded from actually representing working people, to just being the Tories sugarcoated in red. They are not a viable alternative to the Tories, and neither offer the much-needed change our declining society needs.

        Thankfully, we do have other parties on our ballots, so I didn’t have to abstain, and voted Lib Dem last year. But if we did have a strict two-party system, and that was the state of it, you can bet that I wouldn’t bother with the ballot and would be out demonstrating on the streets.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          014 hours ago

          Yeah, the Red Tory label was used just like Genocide Joe over here to suppress the vote among those incapable of making nuanced decisions. And it worked here in the UK just as well as it did in the US.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            18 minutes ago

            to suppress the vote among those incapable of making nuanced decisions. And it worked here in the UK just as well as it did in the US.

            Except that we currently have a Labour Government? Did you also miss the part where I said I voted anyway?

            I don’t have to vote for anyone I don’t agree with. I also don’t have to pick “the lesser of 2/3/4/whatever evils” because, to me, that is falling for the oligarchs’ trap. If you want to get mad at somebody, get mad at those who voted for the Tories here, or the Republicans in the US. They’re to blame, not the left who are divided by the fact that nobody in politics wants to represent their collective interests.

            Frankly, if you think that I am morally compelled to vote for Labour, even when I disagree with their fascist rhetoric, then you are licking the boots of a broken institution.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      161 day ago

      Indeed, they want us to think it’s a left vs right situation so that we’re busy fighting ourselves when really it’s the oligarchy vs the people. We need to stop being distracted by the circus.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        15 minutes ago

        Rioting, instead of voting for one of both agents planted by the oligarchs. The illusion of democracy really isn’t worth defending to the death like this.

        Why are you so angry at another leftist? Save some of that for the literal MAGAs.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      -51 day ago

      Yeah you cant expect people to vote for the lesser evil 3 times in a row. The democrats won and had 4 years to enact drastic enough changes to not be called “the lesser evil” anymore, but they didnt. Now they have to deal with the consequences of their own inaction.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        214 hours ago

        There’s no possibility of democracy delivering perfect candidates. So you are always going to be voting for the lesser evil if you expect a candidate to be elected. But that’s fine, don’t participate, it might pollute your pristine moral purity. Just stay the fuck out of the way when the time comes.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        English
        322 hours ago

        So you decided to vote for the greater evil to teach the lesser evil a lesson? That’s a galaxy brain move there.

        Before you decide to say something stupid about voting third party, in the reality we live in if you don’t vote for major party candidate A you’re helping major party candidate B win. It’s not an ideal system, but unfortunately reality is often not ideal.

      • @AbidanYre
        link
        English
        123 hours ago

        This is your fault if you didn’t vote Harris.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          12 minutes ago

          I do not think it is fair to equate someone who abstained from voting due to dissatisfaction with both candidates to a literal MAGA who voted Trump. The latter are the ones who directly led to this outcome; the former just didn’t help it.

      • @TrickDacy
        link
        -623 hours ago

        What you’re really saying here is that no one can expect you to anticipate the predictable realities you live amongst.