Summary

The ACLU filed a federal lawsuit challenging President Trump’s executive order to deny citizenship to children born in the U.S. if their parents are unlawfully present or have temporary legal status.

The order, set to take effect in 30 days, conflicts with the 14th Amendment, which guarantees birthright citizenship, upheld by the Supreme Court in 1898.

Critics argue the order creates a “subclass” of noncitizens, undermining fairness and equality.

The lawsuit seeks to block the order, which also directs agencies to stop issuing passports and recognizing affected children as citizens.

  • @just_another_person
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    This is contradictory of itself, because everyone inside the US is subject to it’s jurisdiction. If this argument is true, then non-citizens (even visitors) would not be subject to US laws writ large. You can’t pick and choose at your convenience. It’s a stupid argument.

      • @just_another_person
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        You can’t introduce contradictory laws and them de facto to effect.

        He is also not personally going to be doing any of this, which means others will, and will be subject to the courts if they break the law. There are still federal judges and courts in this country, regardless of what SCROTUS seems to think.

        • Nougat
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          You can’t introduce contradictory laws and them de facto to effect.

          Laws, schmaws.

          He is also not personally going to be doing any of this, which means others will, and will be subject to the courts if they break the law.

          Trump pardoned 1500+ violent insurrectionists yesterday.

          There are still federal judges and courts in this country, regardless of what SCROTUS seems to think.

          Judge shop until you hit on another Aileen Cannon.

        • Bakkoda
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          617 hours ago

          You can do whatever the fuck you want if you think you are in charge. Not saying there won’t be consequences but following laws hasn’t really been this dudes MO.

          • Nougat
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            Not saying there won’t be consequences …

            There won’t be consequences. There, I said it.

            • @mriguy
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              So did the Supreme Court. But that only applies for Republicans.

    • @EvacuateSoul
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      Well, except diplomats or foreign heads of state. That’s the point of the language. A queen can’t birth a prince here and he be eligible for the presidency down the road.

      • @nieminen
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        But unless they’re in their consulate, they’re on US soil, subject to the US

        Edit: was totally wrong

        • @mriguy
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          Nope. Even off of consulate grounds, diplomatic immunity holds. It wouldn’t be worth much if you were trapped in the embassy.

        • @EvacuateSoul
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          Sure, if they, e.g., murder someone and their home country waives diplomatic immunity, but otherwise they will just be sent home and possibly be charged there.

          • @nieminen
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            210 hours ago

            This is cool, I totally misunderstood what the immunity provided. Thanks for pointing it out. Read the wiki page on it after your comment.

    • @mriguy
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      212 hours ago

      You can if you have a pet Supreme Court.