Hey there.
As the title says, don’t you feel frustrated whenever a new video comes along and it’s just a blurry pixel doing mundane things?
15 years ago I saw something extraordinary, something that I tear up by just remembering. I won’t go into details because why would I? I’m a stranger on the internet and my experience has no weight cept for me. But I know what I saw, and I truly wonder why nobody ever caught something like that with a camera.
Video after video after images come out and all that I’m left saying to myself is “that’s not it”.
I’m just frustrated that the hallucination hypothesis is the best explanation for my sighting at this point.
how do you cope with that?
I have admitted no such thing, I said that I couldn’t find any evidence strong enough to serve as a rational proof.
And did you really casually throw in a Galileo gambit right now? You went from looking like an angry irrational person to a full-on conspiracy theorist in such a few words.
you should definitely try to explain how Galileo, who Is widely recognized as having provided rational scientific evidence for heliocentrism despite people like you calling him a witch because you don’t believe in evidence, was a “conspiracy theorist”.
Once again not what I said.
Here, have a good read: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Galileo_gambit
always the people that refuse to read urging others to read for them.
you are aware that just because you learned some buzzwords recently, applying them incorrectly does not suddenly make them applicable?
You’re just incorrectly using buzzword after buzzword without context.
have you tried “gaslighting” yet?
That’s probably another reason you don’t need to look at any evidence related to the topic you are ignorant about.
because I’m “gsslighting” you.
How is it incorrect? You quote Galileo as a way to support the idea that despite no consensus on the existence of alien life, you are convinced that you know better. Are you really so dishonest that you’ll now argue that you mentioned him out of nowhere, and not to compare your situation to his?
And all you manage to do is pile some random bullshit to try to discredit me? I don’t even know how you managed to insert gaslighting into this, but it does cast even more shadows on your intentions.
“How is it incorrect?”
Let us count the ways.
"You quote Galileo "
incorrect, I did not quote Galileo.
“as a way to support the idea that despite no consensus on the existence of alien life…”
incorrect. I am not supporting this.
“you are convinced that you know better.”
incorrect again, I have not stated that I know better, I have stated that you are ignorant of the scientific evidence, as you have admitted.
“Are you really so dishonest that you’ll now argue that you mentioned him out of nowhere, and not to compare your situation to his?”
this is going to apparently wreck your worldview, but telling the truth is the opposite of being dishonest.
incorrect a fourth time and a fifth, as I had no intention of comparing my situation to his, but rather pointing out your tendency to ignore evidence that disproves your believies, just as the masses ignored scientific evidence while Galileo presented them with it
as I’ve said from the beginning, you are one of the blind masses.
dang, you are behind.
“And all you manage to do is pile some random bullshit to try to discredit me”
by some random bullshit, do you mean the exact things that you said?
you don’t believe in evidence, you prefer believies.
That’s your problem.
it doesn’t mean the evidence doesn’t exist, that the telemetry doesn’t exist or that radiological data doesn’t exist or that radar and credible witnesses don’t exist.
it just means that your beliefs are stronger than your intellect.
“I don’t even know how you managed to insert gaslighting into this”
unsurprising.
you keep crying wolf pretending that I am using logical fallacies even though you have incorrectly used each logical fallacy so far, including your accusation of me using the “Galileo Gambit”, which apparently after I pointed it out is why you are pretending that you we’re making a simple comparison to Galileo rather than mistakenly regurgitating the logical fallacy correlated with his name.
did you even know Galileo was a scientist before you used your little buzzword incorrectly?
I don’t really care, that was retortical.
so I don’t know those are examples of you being incorrect what seven, eight times?
that, as a whole, is how you are incorrect, to answer your plaintive cry.
Okay, there’s definitely no point in debating with such a bad faith argumentation.
You didn’t compare the situation to Galileo’s, but were just pointing out the similarities between the situations? That’s some mental gymnastics.
I didn’t admit being ignorant about evidence, I said that I am not aware of any because there is none that is valid.
You talk a lot about evidence, what is it? Show me you scientific, non-belief evidence that is so strong and reliable and yet rejected by all scientists. Instead of fighting with wordplay and theatrics, repeating endlessly your “buzzwords”, “evidence”, “blind masses” and whatnot, it’s time to back your claims of the evidence being so overwhelming because as I said, the maximum I’ve found is a few people saying “we detected some particles that are similar to some we have on earth so maybe there could be some microbial life out there but we don’t have proof of it” which is pretty far from your extremely reliable (yet rejected by everyone) evidence.
"definitely no point in debating "
…proceeds to continue debating
“bad faith argumentation.”
again, it’s nice you learned buzzwords, but they don’t change the content of what has been said.
“You didn’t compare the situation to Galileo’s”
correct.
“but were just pointing out the similarities between the situations”
not at all. I was pointing out that you are acting the same as one of the masses who ridiculed and disbelieved Galileo despite his scientific reasoning, and if you were around one Galileo was showing people scientific equations supporting heliocentrism, you would have vilified him rather than looking at those scary numbers.
literally the same thing I’ve been saying from the beginning.
there is evidence, you don’t believe in scientific evidence, and The evidence makes you upset for some reason.
as anyone can see back in my first comment, I’m in the “disclosure happened and nobody cares” phase.
“That’s some mental gymnastics.”
at this point, I’m no longer surprised that a direct 1-to-1 comparison confuses you or seems like some sort of phenomenal mental feat.
“I didn’t admit being ignorant about evidence,”
hang on just one sentence…
“I said that I am not aware of any”
there it is, the definition of ignorance and your admission thereof.
“because there is none that is valid.”
being ignorant of the evidence, there’s no way you can conclusively determine its validity.
not to mention your willful disregard of scientific evidence in general.
“evidence, what is it?”
again, radar, telemetry, radiological data, video, photos from defense departments and aerial surveillance, trained witnesses and observers, and credible witness testimony.
this was all said 10 comments ago, and you said you didn’t believe in telemetry, radiological data, radar and other types of scientific evidence.
The national press club conference in 2007 is a great resource to get started, but it’s 6 hours long, so if you watch “I know what I saw” they’ll go over of a couple of the highlights regarding intelligently designed and maneuvered craft that you should be able to follow and can look further into.
“wordplay and theatrics”
conflating your ignorance with scientific evidence is the only way you can think radar, photography, hard data or video is some sort of wordplay or theatrics.
it looks like in the end you’ve mistaken my earlier statistical metaphor of sand on a beach with concrete scientific evidence of lichen existing on multiple interstellar grains of sand.
try scrolling up to remember what this thread is even about and what you are so hysterically refusing to engage with.
How exactly is ignoring the scientific protocol and interpreting random things as “scientific evidence” something reasonable? Random readings that are absolutely not proof, testimonies, those are your proofs?
None of those hold to scientific standard and that’s exactly why apart from a few clues of microbial life possibly existing, nothing else is admitted scientifically. It has nothing to do with Galileo or made-up statistics.
I thought you would try to give evidence of life being detected from organic molecules on asteroids or whatever, not that you would fully go on the conspiracist line of aliens in spaceships taking a trip to earth and being recorded, with the records then discredited by science as if it was all a big scheme.
Not a single record on earth made it past the scientific protocol, at most reaching the point of “we don’t know but have no reason to believe it came from aliens”. Because you know what? If it did, it would be admitted by science.