Similarly, the firing is only real if someone actually stops them from going back to work. If they show up on Monday, then some individual person is going to have to obey an illegal order to stop them from entering their office. Make individual people legally responsible for implementing the order. I’m sure someone will, but don’t comply in advance and don’t excuse the people who implement it. Underlings also have a lot more risk of legal exposure and you want them as a group to worry about themselves when they’re tasked with making the fascism happen.
The order is pretty blatantly illegal. There’s no real interpretation, just a straightforward law, passed very recently, that says you need to fire them in this way. So they’ll probably get their pay and get officially confirmed to be still employed eventually. Presumably the people who are inspectors general aren’t living paycheck to paycheck. The important thing is to not give Trump the additional power to just say illegal things and then everyone else just accepts them.
Cool so what are they going to do, sue? Bring a gun?
This is what people mean when they say “might equals right.” The person with the biggest army/most power, and the willingness to flex it, gets what they want, period.
This is the system that we have now. This is not a new system. Very very old in fact. So luckily for you, there’s tons of shit to read about in order to educate yourself.
You really think if they show up tomorrow and go to their office, they will be able to just carry on as if nothing happened?
We’re talking about the administration that is actively trying to root out some sort of perceived DEI conspiracy by sending Secret Service agents around to government departments and contractors. Stories keep popping up about it.
Someone needs to stop them. A real specific person. Not just the presidential diktat. And it’s valuable to make them do it and then ideally, when the court cases roll around make them responsible for it. Learned helplessness doesn’t have any benefit.
I don’t know what real specific person you mean, but I have no idea how you think they could bring down the entire Republican-run U.S. government by themselves. You do understand this problem is far deeper than just Trump, right? If Trump is killed, Harris doesn’t get to be president, Vance does. And Vance is even worse.
You seem to have not understood what I wrote. The “real specific person” is whoever blocks their entry or tries to remove them from their office. A real person needs to do that, and it makes them legally vulnerable. Make them do it, and then make them a defendant in the resulting court cases. The whole point is making the underlings worried about enforcing the king’s diktat, because the king may be untouchable but they are not.
It’s only illegal if someone enforces it
Similarly, the firing is only real if someone actually stops them from going back to work. If they show up on Monday, then some individual person is going to have to obey an illegal order to stop them from entering their office. Make individual people legally responsible for implementing the order. I’m sure someone will, but don’t comply in advance and don’t excuse the people who implement it. Underlings also have a lot more risk of legal exposure and you want them as a group to worry about themselves when they’re tasked with making the fascism happen.
Or if they just stop getting paychecks.
The order is pretty blatantly illegal. There’s no real interpretation, just a straightforward law, passed very recently, that says you need to fire them in this way. So they’ll probably get their pay and get officially confirmed to be still employed eventually. Presumably the people who are inspectors general aren’t living paycheck to paycheck. The important thing is to not give Trump the additional power to just say illegal things and then everyone else just accepts them.
Cool so what are they going to do, sue? Bring a gun?
This is what people mean when they say “might equals right.” The person with the biggest army/most power, and the willingness to flex it, gets what they want, period.
This is the system that we have now. This is not a new system. Very very old in fact. So luckily for you, there’s tons of shit to read about in order to educate yourself.
You really think if they show up tomorrow and go to their office, they will be able to just carry on as if nothing happened?
We’re talking about the administration that is actively trying to root out some sort of perceived DEI conspiracy by sending Secret Service agents around to government departments and contractors. Stories keep popping up about it.
Someone needs to stop them. A real specific person. Not just the presidential diktat. And it’s valuable to make them do it and then ideally, when the court cases roll around make them responsible for it. Learned helplessness doesn’t have any benefit.
I don’t know what real specific person you mean, but I have no idea how you think they could bring down the entire Republican-run U.S. government by themselves. You do understand this problem is far deeper than just Trump, right? If Trump is killed, Harris doesn’t get to be president, Vance does. And Vance is even worse.
What? When did I ever say an IG is going to take down the government? This whole response is a non-sequitur.
You:
Me right before that:
I don’t see a point in conversing with you if you’re going to ignore what I said.
You seem to have not understood what I wrote. The “real specific person” is whoever blocks their entry or tries to remove them from their office. A real person needs to do that, and it makes them legally vulnerable. Make them do it, and then make them a defendant in the resulting court cases. The whole point is making the underlings worried about enforcing the king’s diktat, because the king may be untouchable but they are not.
Ok so you really don’t understand how fascism works, do you?