Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.

The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.

“I said to him: I’d love you to take on more because I’m looking at the whole Gaza Strip right now and it’s a mess, it’s a real mess. I’d like him to take people,” Trump said, when asked about the call.

He also suggested Egypt as a destination for Gaza residents, and said he would raise the issue with President Abdel Fatah al-Sisi on Sunday.

  • @[email protected]
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    123 days ago

    It’s funny you think there will be legitimate elections in 4 years. I mean Republicans are already pushing ways to give Trump a third term. So like, congrats on having Gaza screwed even harder while simultaneously throwing away any semblance of democracy?

    At least the corporate corrupt Dems gave a small window for changing things democratically while not screwing over Trans people in the USA as well.

    By abstaining you allowed the greater evil to prevail, not prevented any evil from occuring.

    • @kreskin
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      119 hours ago

      By abstaining you allowed the greater evil to prevail

      I’m heartened to hear that you at least understand that Biden/Harris was evil. Its a good start.

      • @[email protected]
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        119 hours ago

        Actual leftists KNEW that already. Kamala, Biden, the majority of the DNC - they’re all corrupt corporatists.

        But the situation the USA was in was one of minimizing overall damage. And with the corporatists, there was still a small chance of gaining some control from them peacefully via elections, if simply because more left leaning people can at least run under the Democrat moniker.

        With the fascists, that opportunity is gone. By allowing them to win, not only do you worsen the genocide occuring in Israel (if not ensured Israel from achieving it entirely), but also just got killed a bunch of other people and hurt a huge amount of minorities in the USA as well.

        Not voting didn’t stop the genocide and never would have, but it did guarantee that it gets worse while hurting other innocents outside of Palestine as well. If you didn’t vote for Kamala (which literally means “horrible” in Finnish), you’re a dumbass, because you allowed a greater evil to prevail. Especially since I know many of y’all abstainers are still paying taxes anyway and funding the genocides either way.

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          But the situation the USA was in was one of minimizing overall damage

          thats logical in a narrow scoping, but I think its reasonable to also consider the longer term effects of the ‘left’ party in the US continuing a track of far right wing actions over time and how that changes the Democratic party and likely destroys it. No one will vote for republican-lite or fascist lite-- those platforms always lose. The DNC doesn’t understand that. Maybe occasionally a Dem leader goes off the rails and can be disavowed later, sure, but if the party stays evil for long enough, that option of disavowing the evildoers’ mistakes goes away and sticks to all dems. The voter losses across all demographics in the last elections show we are at the point of losing the voters and with that our ability to win in the future. For now its still an option to disavow and explicitly reject Biden/Harris’s actions, if we find the stones to throw the old pro-evil anti-lower and anti-middle class leadership out on their ass and admit they were wrong.

          Sure the war crimes were destined to happen with either party after the election-- and I’d argue with similar severity. Both parties will let the zionists do whatever they want, whenever they want, to whomever they want. Both parties will also fund the zionists with weapons and money, and will run interference in the UN. But I’d rather they be done by the US republicans which gives us at least a chance to rescue the US Dems, which was badly in need of rescue. Rescue means disempowering the bad actors, which is now completed. Without a dethroning of centrism that evil direction was immutable due to the way funding steers political action in the US. So the dems had to lose the election to pure evil or face political dissolution as evil lite in the short-middle time frame. Yes, the cost is dire in terms of Trump being much worse with internal policy. The prognosis for the US is possibly fatal… We are on life support as a country of laws and as an entity on the world stage with global reserve currency dominance.

          Before the election, both parties seemed inevitably doomed-- it was simply of whether it was in the very short term or in the short-medium term. Now the Dems might conceivably disavow their mistakes and correct themselves, after a trip to the woodshed for what we all should agree is a beating of the neolibs that needs to occur if we are to move forward.

          Either way we have a lot to answer for as a people who perpetuate this political reality, which affects the world quite a bit. The concept of collective responsibility exists, even if Americans seldom talk about it or understand it.

    • @[email protected]
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      -33 days ago

      Well, at least you can whine about how other people voted, and that’ll make you feel better, I guess.

      • @[email protected]
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        23 days ago

        Nah, but I can live with knowing I at least tried to stop literal Nazis from gaining absolute power.

        Can you say the same?

        • @Doorbook
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          -33 days ago

          Do you think Musk wouldn’t pay Democrat to get what he wanted? He literally manage to get his wealth while 2 Democrat presidents held office.

          I believe he just change teams because it was expected after Biden left the race.

          I do believe he knew before it is official that Biden would drop and Trump assassination attempt and moment was clear that he will get the same votes as before so he diced to get favor early.

          Some timeline:

          Trump assassination attempt was on July 13, 2024

          Public Musk endorsement was on the same day.

          Biden left the race on July 21, 2024

          I do believe that while he might not be publicly a Nazi he will get what he need throughout Democrat president based on his history.

            • @[email protected]
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              33 days ago

              While worded clumsily, I believe they were trying to say “had a Democrat become president, he would continue ‘hiding his power level’”

              • @Doorbook
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                22 days ago

                Thanks, that what I meant and reading it again the sentence structure is twisted !

      • @[email protected]
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        03 days ago

        Thanks for finishing the genocide, Biden was getting tired and your support for Trump is really gonna help israel out.