• @novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one
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    -220 days ago

    I am talking about before a woman gives birth to a baby, whether she is 4 weeks pregnant, or 3 month pregnant, and she wants to murder the baby inside of her before she gives birth.

    • @_stranger_
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      219 days ago

      That’s called an abortion, not murder. See, since it’s inside of a human with her own agency, no one else has any say in what she does. It’s a very simple concept called bodily autonomy.

      • @novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one
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        -219 days ago

        Bodily autonomy of the person inside her during pregnany. If she does not want to be pregnant then she must remain celibate and never be with any man.

        • @_stranger_
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          119 days ago

          The fetus is not a person, not a body.

          You don’t get to tell the woman what to do with her body any more than she gets to tell you what to do with yours.

        • Tar_Alcaran
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          119 days ago

          Bodily autonomy of the person inside her during pregnany.

          Even if we hold that a fetus is a person, that person is not having their bodily autonomy violated.

          Even if we hold that abortion is murder, it is still morally right, because the right to bodily autonomy is more important than the right to life.

          • @novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one
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            -119 days ago

            The right to life is the supreme law and rule. Everything else is secondary, including bodily autonomy is secondary to the right to life. During pregnancg, the lifeof the baby is most important. The mother has already lived her life, she decided to mess around and get pregnant, the baby must be protected at all cost during pregnancy because the baby has not had a chance at it’s right to life yet, so the baby’s life comes first, the mother’s life is seconday.

            She should never been with a man if she was not willing to sacrifice her own life and put the life of the child insider of her as first priority, she comes second.

            • Tar_Alcaran
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              118 days ago

              The right to life is the supreme law and rule. Everything else is secondary, including bodily autonomy

              So, why aren’t we forcing people to donate blood? Or organs? Why can’t we take half your liver, against your will, to save someone else?