It very well could be loud minorities on both sides. That’s a fair assumption to make.
I just know that every story I’ve heard a woman tell about all men being creepy, they ignore every man that wasn’t. They could go through an entire day of normal interactions from people of all sexes and then deal with 1 creepy dude and that’s all they remember.
So whenever I hear women complaining about it I poke fun. Because it’s not “all men” just like it’s not all women complaining about all men.
When I hear someone complain about men I always assume it’s about the way men are socialized in our society not about literally all men. It’s a way to air out frustrations, not an actual statement. Of course there are exceptions, some do mean it literally, but they are definitely a minority.
I mean I agree, it’s silly to phrase it like that, but I find reactions like this even more silly. Someone is venting their frustration about a specific experience, that fuels a general frustration with the way a significant portion of men behave (which includes heinous crimes that are systemically perpetrated by men against women). And the reaction they get is “Well, actually, it’s not all men, you know?”. Like, come on. Is that really what’s being said here? Isn’t that reaction a kind of whataboutism? Instead of talking about what caused this or showing some empathy, you really want to make fun of it and point out the semantics?
Except I’ve been at the other end where I did absolutely nothing wrong but because I’m a man I’m the perpetrator.
I’ve had women tell me to my face that they hate all men. I’ve been blamed for things women did because I’m a man and therefore must be the problem.
I’ve even been accused of rape by a woman I never even physically touched only talked to for 20 minutes. We didn’t even talk about anything sexual much less sexually inappropriate.
The pendulum swings both ways. I don’t hate women. I don’t hate men. I recognize both sides have bad characteristics. I recognize both sides go through different struggles.
I’m just tired of being seen as an enemy just for having a penis.
makes “joke” about how he won’t talk to women because they’re too sensitive
defends joke by saying he always makes fun of women when they ask men to not talk to them
doesn’t see inherent contradiction in 1st line with 3rd line
You’re saying women overgeneralize but you’re responding here as though the woman asking to be left alone is in the room with you right now. She’s not. It kinda just looks like you’re looking for excuses to “poke fun” at women wanting to feel safe. Why’d you bring it up if it has nothing to do with the OP?
So, a “huge majority of women have been telling men not to talk to them”, but only a “a small but very loud percentage of men are jackasses”?
What makes you so sure it isn’t the other way around? Or it’s very loud minorities on both sides?
It very well could be loud minorities on both sides. That’s a fair assumption to make.
I just know that every story I’ve heard a woman tell about all men being creepy, they ignore every man that wasn’t. They could go through an entire day of normal interactions from people of all sexes and then deal with 1 creepy dude and that’s all they remember.
So whenever I hear women complaining about it I poke fun. Because it’s not “all men” just like it’s not all women complaining about all men.
When I hear someone complain about men I always assume it’s about the way men are socialized in our society not about literally all men. It’s a way to air out frustrations, not an actual statement. Of course there are exceptions, some do mean it literally, but they are definitely a minority.
I mean I agree, it’s silly to phrase it like that, but I find reactions like this even more silly. Someone is venting their frustration about a specific experience, that fuels a general frustration with the way a significant portion of men behave (which includes heinous crimes that are systemically perpetrated by men against women). And the reaction they get is “Well, actually, it’s not all men, you know?”. Like, come on. Is that really what’s being said here? Isn’t that reaction a kind of whataboutism? Instead of talking about what caused this or showing some empathy, you really want to make fun of it and point out the semantics?
Except I’ve been at the other end where I did absolutely nothing wrong but because I’m a man I’m the perpetrator.
I’ve had women tell me to my face that they hate all men. I’ve been blamed for things women did because I’m a man and therefore must be the problem.
I’ve even been accused of rape by a woman I never even physically touched only talked to for 20 minutes. We didn’t even talk about anything sexual much less sexually inappropriate.
The pendulum swings both ways. I don’t hate women. I don’t hate men. I recognize both sides have bad characteristics. I recognize both sides go through different struggles.
I’m just tired of being seen as an enemy just for having a penis.
So I poke fun at it.
Yeah, I don’t think that’s very helpful, but then again neither is blaming all men 🤷♂️
You’re saying women overgeneralize but you’re responding here as though the woman asking to be left alone is in the room with you right now. She’s not. It kinda just looks like you’re looking for excuses to “poke fun” at women wanting to feel safe. Why’d you bring it up if it has nothing to do with the OP?
Nah she’s not in the room with me because she’s my ex.
Unfortunately she used to be in the room with me all the time talking about all this shit.
Man bad this, man bad that.
Sexist women exist. And there’s a lot of them.