• @gedaliyah
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    5210 hours ago

    Well, bluesky isn’t the fediverse, but the point stands.

    • @LesserAbe
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      25 hours ago

      You’re correct. But blue sky does support federation, just not the same protocol as the fediverse, right?

      • @gedaliyah
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        11 hour ago

        BlueSky does not support federation in any way that we understand the word.

        It is 100% reliant on the corporate server(s). They do offer a way to host your own data, which solves a singular problem with corporate media, which seems to be what they mean when they promote it “supporting federation.” Is also has an open codebase, which is something.

        • @gedaliyah
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          11 hour ago

          As an aside, I have read in some places that self-hosting is very straightforward, and in other places that it is prohibitively difficult. I have basically no idea about any of these things.

      • @gedaliyah
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        21 hour ago

        Part of their marketing seems to be to create confusion about it. Bluesky uses the language and values of the fediverse to promote what is essentially another closed network. Meta is also doing this with Threads. Bluesky seems like a chill place and a lot of decent people seem to be very happy there, and they provide a lot more user controls than other networks, so the comic definitely still works.

      • JackbyDev
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        56 hours ago

        It sort of depends on how you define fediverse. If you mean things using the ActivityPub protocol and are federated with Mastodon, Lemmy, etc. then no, it’s not part of the fediverse. If you mean anything using federated technology then you could possibly include it. https://docs.bsky.app/docs/advanced-guides/federation-architecture It uses something called AT instead of ActivityPub. I’m not personally aware of any other services or instances using it, but I also didn’t look very hard.

      • @DerArzt
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        319 hours ago

        I think Mastodon would be what you’re looking for.

      • @[email protected]
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        149 hours ago

        Bluesy is a business, Mastodon is a community tool that runs on the ActivityPub (same as Lemmy which is what we are talkin on).