“controversial gesture”. It’s a Nazi salute you pathetic journalist.

Also I wonder if Fetterman will be hiring her.

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    So call it a “fascist salute”, “Hitler’s salute”, or “the salute that the Nazis used”

    All of which is factually correct.

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      Fascist salute would be the best choice as you aren’t engaging in libel. He supports fascism around the world. He is not a German fascist trying to create a master race to lead a 1000 year reich which is what Nazis believe.

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        “It’s not a Nazi salute if it doesn’t come from the Nazi part of Europe, otherwise it’s just a sparkling fascist salute.”

        Literally your argument.

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          No, my arguement is he isn’t a member of the Nazi party. He has never demonstrated any belief in Nazism as a result he will win any libel suit he files against those claiming he is a nazi.

          Musk is a fascist but he is not a Nazi. All Nazis are fascist but not all fascists are nazis.

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            Oh, I see. I didn’t think to check the Nazi party registration list. I was under the impression that anyone can be a Nazi by simply doing Nazi things. Good to know there’s a Nazi certification process to keep people in check.

            I hope all those people who keep it a secret or generally low-key know that they can’t actually be a Nazi without being certified by the Nazi party.

            Like all those people who march around in masks with Nazi flags. They’re not actually Nazis, so we can all feel safe now.

            Thanks for that peace of mind.

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              Do you have evidence if Musk doing any if these things? No, you don’t so even by your own idiotic standards he wouldn’t be a Nazi.

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                We have clear evidence of him doing a Nazi salute. No other evidence is required. He was caught Reich-handed.

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                  He was caught Reich-handed.

                  Good gods that’s a great line.

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          Hey how about you reread that comment you completely misunderstood.

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            Oh, sorry, I must have missed the part where you said it’s a Nazi salute. If you believe that then spending this much time arguing about how there’s no way it could be proved in court that it’s a Nazi salute gives the wrong impression.

            Especially since for public figures (like Musk) the bar for libel is much higher, and requires that someone know what they said was untrue.

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              I said they cannot call it that because of libel suits given that he is not a German fascist whose goals align with Nazis which is what US law requires.

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                Yes, you said that, but it doesn’t make it true. The bar for libel is much higher for public figures, and it would have to be false that it was a Nazi salute for anyone to be found guilty of libel.

                You cannot both say ‘no obviously I believe it was a Nazi salute’ and ‘nobody can call it a Nazi salute in the press because they’ll get sued for the crime of lying about someone.’

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                  It isn’t a Nazi salute just like an American waving their hand and saying “hi” isn’t an American salute. It is a fascist salute. The press can call him fascist but calling him a Nazi implies support for Nazism and he does not support Nazism but rather a different form of fascism.

                  This is about me explaining why the press is reacting this way. i am not showing support for this and it highlights a lack of comprehension when you suggest so.

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                    Lmao, okay, so now it isn’t a Nazi salute. In that case may I refer you to my initial comment: if you think it’s not a Nazi salute, go do it in Germany and see what happens.

                    You are making up excuses for the press and for Elon Musk’s actual Nazi salute based on a flawed understanding of what libel is. And you seem totally uninterested in the actual legal definition of libel as it pertains to public figures, how curious.

                    I do not engage with debate perverts so now that you have revealed yourself this is done.