• breadguyyyyyyyyy
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    221 month ago

    I keep seeing this type stuff but neither peertube or friendica are genuine replacements at this point, mastodon is weaksauce compared to akkoma or a misskey fork, and loops is alpha software. also yes signal is centralized but it just works and has contact discovery so it owns matrix and xmpp when compared to whatsapp. basically none of this stuff is truly ready

    • Meldrik
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      111 month ago

      As software, PeerTube is great and there’s actually plenty of content to consume if you can find it. The more content creators we can get to use PeerTube, the more appealing PeerTube will also become.

      Check this link out, if looking for content: https://peertube.wtf/

      • @[email protected]
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        61 month ago

        “If you can find it” … that’s the crucial point I suppose … but without a discovery algorithm, interesting creators, and a VAST content archive, it can hardly be called an “alternative” for YouTube.

        When I was looking into it I found the best use case was to use it as a self-hosted video archive to replace/extend my Vimeo. At least at that point, all instances that were remotely interesting were not taking any users, and the generic ones seemed to be very far away from what I’m doing content-wise.

        And I guess as long as that’s the case, and you have no ways to monetize content nor any significant reach due to the federated fragmentation, I don’t think it’s an interesting software/federated platform for creators …

          • @[email protected]
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            21 month ago

            I’m running my own instance, and typically post my stuff on mastodon, so I guess I have made the first step?

            It’s a bit of a Catch-22 I suppose … low numbers of viewers makes it less attractive for creators, and fewer interesting creators make it less attractive for viewers.

            Taking into account the other aspects that make it less attractive for viewers (fragmentation and inconvenience … having to dig through “Find the right instance for you” tutorials, no matter how well curated, can be a bit of a turn-off compared to just going to a central point and find what you’re looking for), I don’t have that much hope that it’ll reach a critical mass of both viewers and creators to catapult Peertube into large-scale relevance … as sad as I am about saying that.

            • Meldrik
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              21 month ago

              Cool. What’s your instance?

              And yes, it is a catch-22 or a “chicken before the egg” issue, but I’m confident we will see even more content creators on PeerTube in the future.

    • @[email protected]
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      1 month ago

      matrix too has contact discovery, if you add your phone number (or email). most users don’t, and that tells me something

      • breadguyyyyyyyyy
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        11 month ago

        they don’t have it on the new app yet, and it’s not super intuitive to begin with compared to signal or whatsapp

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          the new app is quite pre-release like still. there is also still no new app for the web (and desktop), or is there?

    • @exhaust_fan
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      21 month ago

      [Signal] has contact discovery so it owns matrix and xmpp when compared to whatsapp

      Can you please elaborate? Idk what this means

      • @[email protected]
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        21 month ago

        It means that, because signal mandates you to use your phone as ID, all your phone contacts that have signal are immediately signal contacts. Matrix, XMPP, SimpleX, etc. can’t really do that. That’s by choice, to preserve privacy, but it does create a friction point when migrating.

      • breadguyyyyyyyyy
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        21 month ago

        matrix and xmpp just don’t have the intuitive onboarding that signal has when coming from whatsapp