• @grue
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    56 days ago

    Sure, in the same way Reagan “got the hostages released” – by colluding with another fascist to make each other look good, so they can gain power and execute their agenda (and their enemies) later.

    You’ve been played and you don’t even realize it.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness
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      26 days ago

      Okay I won’t deny that this possibility exists—though I don’t think it’s likely either—but okay, and? Muslims in America wanted one thing: A Gaza ceasefire. Biden didn’t give them that, but Trump did. Therefore the idea that Trump was going to or is funding the genocide harder than Biden did is simply false.

        • NoneOfUrBusiness
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          05 days ago

          I’ll wait till I see what Egypt and Jordan have to say about this. If they accept, which is necessary for Trump’s plan and exceedingly unlikely, I’ll eat my words.

          • @grue
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            5 days ago

            Whether Egypt or Jordan accept or not is completely beside the point. Forced relocation is genocide. Trump supports genocide of the Palestinians – it’s right there printed in black and white.

            • NoneOfUrBusiness
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              If they don’t accept he’ll have nowhere to relocate them to, is my point. That will be the decider of whether this is just rhetoric (which has always been awful; this is Donald “finish the job” Trump) or real action.

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                First of all, to try to do ethnic cleansing and fail is to still be genocidal. Second, if there’s nowhere for them to go Trump will just let Netanyahu kill them all outright.

                Stop trying to “both sides” genocide, liar!

                • NoneOfUrBusiness
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                  04 days ago

                  First of all, to try to do ethnic cleansing and fail is to still be genocidal.

                  Yeah, and? Trump sucks that goes without saying.

                  Second, if there’s nowhere for them to go Trump will just let Netanyahu kill them all outright.

                  If he could do that he would’ve done it already.

                  Stop trying to “both sides” genocide, liar!

                  I’m not. I just care a lot more about what happens to Palestine than about who does it, and at least as far as I understand it the most likely result here is Trump eating back his words after he realizes his plan is impossible.

                  • @grue
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                    14 days ago

                    I’m sorry that you’re fucking delusional.

              • @[email protected]
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                14 days ago

                And if the Egyptians start firing on Gaza Palestinians as they’re forced across the border, do you think Trump or Netanyahu will care?

                • NoneOfUrBusiness
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                  14 days ago

                  No, but Sisi and the Hashemites will, and Israel’s Apartheid is impossible to sustain without their cooperation. Sisi is America’s lapdog 99% of the time, but that’s because Egypt gets American aid and loans in exchange for looking the other way (and sometimes actively cooperating) as Israel murders Palestinians. I’ll also note that Israel worked really hard across many decades to get the leaders of the region on their side, and I very much doubt that they’d throw that away just to make Trump’s donors money.