I never claimed that, just that I didn’t read any philosophers, there’s a huge difference between philosophers and real scientists. We were taught about political systems in 7th grade, so it’s quite stretch for you to claim people need to read philosophers to understand them.
But i actually have read philosophers, but it wasn’t very big reads and it was long ago, doesn’t take much to recognize when you are confronted with bullshit.
I agree, democracy is by far the greatest system ever created, that’s why I maximize it, I want democracy in the workplace, democracy for every single law,
OK that’s not anarchy. maybe someone calls it so, but that has NOTHING to do with what anarchy actually means.
We were taught about political systems in 7th grade, so it’s quite stretch for you to claim people need to read philosophers to understand them.
If you don’t read primary sources then you don’t know what they actually say, this is how you end up being propagandized into believing the absolute nonsense you believe about what anarchists believe.
Here’s an example:
Buffalox firmly believed that all races other than whites are inferior and hates democracy because he hates democratic systems except fascism.
See how I can just say you said anything? That’s what a secondary source does for you. That’s why they aren’t used in any serious academic analysis.
But i actually have read philosophers, but it wasn’t very big reads and it was long ago, doesn’t take much to recognize when you are confronted with bullshit.
which ones?
OK that’s not anarchy. maybe someone calls it so, but that has NOTHING to do with what anarchy actually means.
Bakunin, proudhon, literally every single founder of anarchist thought would COMPLETELY disagree with you, can you point to a single one that agrees with you? You can’t, because you have no idea what anarchism is, just some nonsense your teacher told you in 7th grade. Orwell would also completely disagree with you, I literally can’t even name one anarchist thinker who would agree with your definition.
I’m sorry but are you really claiming that the FOUNDERS of anarchism don’t know what anarchism is and what they’re doing has nothing to do with anarchism? Is that really what you’re going to go with here?
Maybe your definition is just not what any anarchist thinkers actually believe, again, simply name one and you will prove me wrong. Don’t you think it’s more possible that you’ve simply been lied to about what anarchists believe?
just as an example, why do you think bakunin did this:
“By organizing and heading Czech and German secret societies to instigate a revolttionary movement in Bohemia, he made extraordinary efforts to help German democracy which, at that time, was preparing for the struggles of 1849.”
literally every single founder of anarchist thought
You cant be serious?! Those people are hundreds of years to late to be founders of anarchism, from when the idea was reexamined 400 years ago. And the actual founder of the Idea was 2000 years ago.
It would be easier to believe you, if you didn’t spew such bullshit. Also those were not new ideas when I was in 7th grade, I may be old, but i’m not THAT old.
And also Mikhail Bakunin was a Russian Anarchist, so how exactly were his ideas suppressed by capitalism as you claim?
When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called “the People’s Stick”.
This is a nice quote though.
just as an example, why do you think bakunin did this:
Because he was anti Marxism/communism, as per the quote above.
please just read the first paragraph aloud and try again
And also Mikhail Bakunin was a Russian Anarchist, so how exactly were his ideas suppressed by capitalism?
I said by the people in power, not necessarily by capitalism… capitalists are just currently the people with power, anarchist is a very anti-people in power ideology… duh.
again, which anarchist philosophers agree with you, name them. Name just one and you will prove me wrong.
also, you linked statism and anarchy and fundamentally don’t understand that the state is separate from the government in anarchy, because you again, have no formal education on the topic but a lot of opinions.
I never claimed that, just that I didn’t read any philosophers, there’s a huge difference between philosophers and real scientists. We were taught about political systems in 7th grade, so it’s quite stretch for you to claim people need to read philosophers to understand them.
But i actually have read philosophers, but it wasn’t very big reads and it was long ago, doesn’t take much to recognize when you are confronted with bullshit.
OK that’s not anarchy. maybe someone calls it so, but that has NOTHING to do with what anarchy actually means.
If you don’t read primary sources then you don’t know what they actually say, this is how you end up being propagandized into believing the absolute nonsense you believe about what anarchists believe.
Here’s an example:
Buffalox firmly believed that all races other than whites are inferior and hates democracy because he hates democratic systems except fascism.
See how I can just say you said anything? That’s what a secondary source does for you. That’s why they aren’t used in any serious academic analysis.
which ones?
Bakunin, proudhon, literally every single founder of anarchist thought would COMPLETELY disagree with you, can you point to a single one that agrees with you? You can’t, because you have no idea what anarchism is, just some nonsense your teacher told you in 7th grade. Orwell would also completely disagree with you, I literally can’t even name one anarchist thinker who would agree with your definition.
I’m sorry but are you really claiming that the FOUNDERS of anarchism don’t know what anarchism is and what they’re doing has nothing to do with anarchism? Is that really what you’re going to go with here?
Maybe your definition is just not what any anarchist thinkers actually believe, again, simply name one and you will prove me wrong. Don’t you think it’s more possible that you’ve simply been lied to about what anarchists believe?
just as an example, why do you think bakunin did this:
“By organizing and heading Czech and German secret societies to instigate a revolttionary movement in Bohemia, he made extraordinary efforts to help German democracy which, at that time, was preparing for the struggles of 1849.”
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/maximoff-the-political-philosophy-of-bakunin
I’m sorry but you don’t know anything about anarchism and are confidently asserting you do. Read ANY anarchist philosophers and then get back to me.
You cant be serious?! Those people are hundreds of years to late to be founders of anarchism, from when the idea was reexamined 400 years ago. And the actual founder of the Idea was 2000 years ago.
It would be easier to believe you, if you didn’t spew such bullshit. Also those were not new ideas when I was in 7th grade, I may be old, but i’m not THAT old.
And also Mikhail Bakunin was a Russian Anarchist, so how exactly were his ideas suppressed by capitalism as you claim?
This is a nice quote though.
Because he was anti Marxism/communism, as per the quote above.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statism_and_Anarchy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_anarchism
please just read the first paragraph aloud and try again
I said by the people in power, not necessarily by capitalism… capitalists are just currently the people with power, anarchist is a very anti-people in power ideology… duh.
again, which anarchist philosophers agree with you, name them. Name just one and you will prove me wrong.
also, you linked statism and anarchy and fundamentally don’t understand that the state is separate from the government in anarchy, because you again, have no formal education on the topic but a lot of opinions.