• @Lost_My_Mind
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    710 hours ago

    Here’s the problem with killing baby hitler. Lets say hou travel back to the 1890s, and find this exact baby. It’s 100% baby hitler. So you kill him.

    Now you got this entire city like “HE JUST KILLED A BABY!!!”

    And so you say “Oh, no, you don’t understand. You see, I’m from the year 2025, and this baby causes the second world war. I just saved MILLIONS of lives, and killed argueably the most evil man in history.”

    Say that. To a population who’s never heard of nazis, because they haven’t been founded. Who’s never even heard of Wofld War 1, because it was still like 20-25 years away. And you’re over here justifying killing a baby. You’re in the right, but there’s ZERO chance anyone will ever understand, because you just erased the only proof that any of it ever happened. So even when you get back to 2025, you’re still the guy who killed an innocent baby.

    Which is why, I think we can all agree that there was SOMETHING fishy about JFKs assasination. And everybody thinks it’s so tragic that he died. But him dying saved humanity. He gets voted into office in 1961, and in no particular order he escalated the vietnam situation which had been mildly going on since 1955, but he escalated to an actual war. Threatens USSR with nuclear war, multiple times, including 2 different distinct military staredowns, placed nuclear warheads in Turkey, tries to over throw the Cuban government, is directly involved in the planning, and sabotoging of, the bay of pigs, is the cause of the cuban missile crisis, and threatened multiple mafias in various cities that his family had connections to. All in the span of 2 years. Try to imagine if he served for 8 years, the global damage he would have caused. He’d have ended the world!

    Johnson may have escalated vietnam after him even further, but outside of that he didn’t go around like a madman threatening everybody.

    So my belief is, nobody killed hitler because hitler in place as is was an ineffective military leader who loses the war based on his own incompetence. I mean really. Fighting Russia in the winter? Did he learn nothing from history before him???

    So back to JFK. He doesn’t get assasinated in 1963. He goes on to start WWIII. Both USSR and USA have nukes. NATO is not risking being involved in THAT fight. Neither are non-NATO allies of the USA.

    So now the USA and Soviet Union are fighting with nukes. Canada fights the soviets, but ALSO fights the USA. They’re just trying to end the war as fast as possible regardless who wins. And Kennedy just starts nuking everybody. Canada, Russia, Vietnam, China, whoever. And now nukes are flying left and right. Everybody dies.

    So the people in 1962 see how serious it’s getting. It’s kind of telling that Lee Harvey Oswald is just an American citizen with no ties to anyone.

    So you’re telling me, that the cuban government wanted him dead, the soviets wanted him dead, the mafia wanted him dead, the CIA wanted him dead, the FBI wanted him dead, and out of all those, a single nutjob who tried defecting to the soviets, but was rejected for being mentally incompetant was the one to kill the president using a mail order gun with 3 shots fired, 2 of them hitting, and 1 of those 2 changing trajectory midflight later being called the magic bullet, all of which is disputed by a secret video recording of the incident that nobody knew existed for 10+ years? Then, as he’s being escorted to trial, a prominant figure in the mafia shoots Oswald dead, and claims his reasoning was that he didn’t want to see Jackie cry?

    People are willing to believe all this, and not the more likely explanation of an additional gunman, used to prevent WWIII, and use Oswald as the gunman fall guy?

    And the sad fact is, JFK was so insane with how many global disasters he forced, that it’s impossible to say Jack Ruby was actually worked explicitly for just the mob. He may have been. The mafia certainly wanted him dead, and closing Oswalds loose lips would certainly benefit them. But it seems a little convienent that they’d make a public theater out of transporting Oswald. Unless they wanted that shooting to happen. So what better way than to assure Ruby he was safe to shoot Oswald, they’d arrest him, and intentionally botch the trial to let him go. Then after it’s done, they go back on their deal, keep him in prison, and the trail leaves no loose ends.

    See to me, the conspiracy isn’t if. To me that’s a given that there was. It’s not even a question of why. The why is because he was a decent politician, who brought up some decent civil rights issues, but all of that is irrelevant because everyone dies in WWIII that he was on the path of causing fast.

    So now, the unsolvable question is…who? Oswald has documentent ties to the soviets in the 50s. We’re lead to believe that russian citizenship was denied because they saw no use in him. Is that true? Maybe. We have documented files showing he had multiple flights to the soviet union in the 50s. It’s entirely plausible that he’s working with the soviets, but publically they deny his citizenship. They don’t need him in russia to be useful. Then again, it’s also entirely plausible he WAS denied and rejected. All accounts show he wasn’t the brightest.

    There’s also documentation showing he had trips to mexico in the early 60s. Could he have been meeting with Cuban officials? Hard to say. There’s no evidence of that, other than a trip to mexico city. There’s no evidence of anything he did there, or who he talked to. Official explained reason was “vacation”. Which could be true.

    Then there’s the fact that in the months leading up to the shooting, he was known to socialize in Jack Rubys bar. Which was a known mafia bar. Basically if you didn’t belong there, they’d let you know pretty quick. He was allowed to stay for months, and then gets killed by Ruby himself.

    Then there’s the CIA and FBI which aren’t connected, but would have similar motives. They see JFKs moves with inside information the general public doesn’t have. They can see how his actions will cause certain events to unfold. And with power inside the government have the power to cover things up.

    Basically, it’s not time travel in the traditional sense, but it is in the sense that someone knew of a future we never did, and we never think of, and whoever this was prevented millions of deaths by killing 1 president, and using Oswald (and possibly Ruby) as a fall guy.

    History is weird.