• @Cypher
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    -116 hours ago

    walking, cycling, trams, and light rail

    Ableism much? These options don’t suit a bunch of people.

    • @Hawke
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      74 hours ago

      Ableism much?

      No. There are many more disabilities that prevent operation of a car compared to train or tram, so the status quo of car supremacy is far more ableist.

      • @Cypher
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        -43 hours ago

        No one said the individual being accommodated had to be the one operating the vehicle.

        • @Cypher @Hawke So if you were to lose your vision or develop epilepsy tomorrow, you would prefer to be dependent on family, friends, or personal servants to drive you everywhere rather than having options of accessible trains and buses and being able to walk to nearby destinations safely?

          • @Hawke
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            153 minutes ago

            Not at all. I’m 100% onboard (pun intended) with trains and buses and trams.

            Not sure where you got the idea that I wasn’t.

          • @Cypher
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            -63 hours ago

            I would absolutely prefer a private chauffeur given that I find the general public to be imbecilic disgusting wastes of time and oxygen.

            • @FireRetardant
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              62 hours ago

              Advocates against ablism then calls the general public imbecilic disgusting wastes of oxygen…

    • @FireRetardant
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      96 hours ago

      Many trams and light rail are accessible for various disabilities.

      Cars are also restrictive to people with certain disabilities. The fairest way is having a wide variety of options available, including specialized cars for those who need them. Currently, the car is pretty much the only option in many north american cities, which certainly isn’t the fairest.

      • @Cypher
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        16 hours ago

        Options are good, ignoring the car as an option is ridiculous.

        • KubeRoot
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          75 hours ago

          I’m pretty sure people aren’t ignoring cars as an option - the topic of discussion is excessive prevalence of cars, so the discussion is focused on the viability of alternatives.