• @teslasaur
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    -228 hours ago

    Sure they can. But with the boys.

    • @[email protected]
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      86 hours ago

      If trans women have to play with the boys, then cis women should, too. Just end segregation entirely.

      • @teslasaur
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        -56 hours ago

        That’s definitely one way of making sure that a woman will never win again in athletics.

        They did do that in golf, of course with handicaps like a shorter tee off for women, so not a fair competition.

        • Flying Squid
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          23 hours ago

          You’re saying that even the weakest biologically male athlete could beat the strongest biologically female athlete?

          Because otherwise, “never win again” seems kind of unlikely.

          • @teslasaur
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            -22 hours ago

            My god what an asenine take.

            No, but no woman would ever win with the best from both genders attending.

            I don’t think you could even qualify for the mens qualifiers in athletics with the world records for women.

            • Flying Squid
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              12 hours ago

              You do know there are tons of co-ed sports out there, right? And women win them all the time.

              But please, continue to be rude. That will definitely prove something or other.

              • @teslasaur
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                12 hours ago

                Good, name one and ill give you a list of world records in athletics.

                  • @teslasaur
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                    Womens discus weigh 1 kg

                    Mens weigh 2 kg

                    Next you’ll tell me women are hindered by being forced to use a smaller discus or something.

        • Natanox
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          67 hours ago

          Forcing a girl to play against boys and use their changing room is pretty fucked up dude. Don’t make yourself look even more like a dick.

          • @teslasaur
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            -107 hours ago

            Nobody is forcing anyone. But saying they can’t play badminton because they are trans is false.

            • Natanox
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              37 hours ago

              Oh, right! They can just stop doing what they love! I’m sorry, my empathy-riddled ass didn’t think about this obvious solution.

              • @teslasaur
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                No? They can play with the boys. Changing rooms can be arranged. Why is it important for a trans-girl who went through male puberty to play with girls that are smaller and physically weaker?

                I should probably clarify that i mean compete in competitions, dont care in the slightest who or how they want to practice. That’s just fair.

                • ObliviousEnlightenment
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                  12 hours ago

                  Its important for the same reason gays and leabians want proper marriages and not just civil unions. There is social legitamacy that comes from inclusion. I have also never seen a single study actually backing up this unfair advantage narrative.

                  Meanwhile, the WNBA has an average player height of 6’1" against the average womans height of 5’4". But noone complains about a cis woman whos 6 foot having an unfair advantage. Meanwhile even cis women get caught in the crossfire, see Imane Khalif who could be executed in her home country for being trans. She’s not, but one salty boxer and a fraudulent Russian report gave her all sorts of shit and put her life in danger.

                • Flying Squid
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                  23 hours ago

                  How would you propose women prove they are not trans and can thus play on the women’s team?

                  • @teslasaur
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                    I’m not qualified to answer that. I assume a doctor might be able to answer.

                    But not having a dick is a start.

                • Natanox
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                  66 hours ago

                  I see, so it’s an information problem.

                  Trans girls are not stronger than other girls. Any increased muscle mass vanishes with hormone therapy as the testosterone supporting it goes away. Likewise the body remodels stuff like cartilages as all of this is influenced by hormones. That’s why Olympia goes so overboard with hormone tests, even forcing cis-women to do invasive measures to reduce their natural testosterone levels.

                  The only difference caused by puberty that are irreversible are:

                  • How thick bones are & how they formed
                  • How you sound
                  • Where you grow how much hair

                  And of those three ONLY the first can be of any value in any argument. And definitely not for badminton. Uninformed bullshit arguments cause WAY more problems for cis-women in sports than they could ever solve. There’s nothing fair about that way of arguing.

                  • @teslasaur
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                    -16 hours ago

                    Trans girls are not stronger than other girls. Any increased muscle mass vanishes with hormone therapy as the testosterone supporting it goes away.

                    Yeah, but then you’d need rules for checking that too.

                    And of those three ONLY the first can be of any value

                    Yes, and one is enough for making competitions unfair.