I don’t troll. At all. What I do is post various comments encouraging a community to not get angry as hell about a change but to make the best out of it. That’s what happened when 196 decided to port over from blahaj.zone to lemmy.world. I made a bunch of fairly long comments that were talking about how people shouldn’t be angry and just leaving toxic comments but fueling a better community, whether that be here or elsewhere. Comments went fairly well and all was fine and left up for a while but a couple of days after being posted they were removed along with everything else that I had posted to that community. The mods list the reason in the modlog for my permanent ban as “trolling”. There are many things I do, but trolling isn’t one of them. Especially when the comment sections are left in a state here showing that I wasn’t trolling.
I went through everything that I did with that community and cannot find a singular thing with the exception of a memory.
I had posted a meme a couple of weeks ago. I don’t remember exactly what it was but I remember a moderator saying on it an hour or two after posting that it should be marked as NSFW. I disagreed with this assessment. I left a comment in response saying that I disagreed that it should be marked and that I would refuse to mark it as NSFW. However, I also respect that it is their community and their rules so I settled for something different. I didn’t add an NSFW tag, I just deleted it wholesale. I didn’t want to add a tag to something that I didn’t feel was applicable and instead of having to sit with that tag on the post, I just deleted the post entirely.
So this only leaves two options from the mods of 196.
Either they banned me for posting comments that were supportive of the community itself and not directly supportive of them or they banned me for deleting a post.
In either case? The moderators of [email protected] are no better than reddit moderators who just lash out for their own ego. Blanket bans for disagreements.
And perhaps unsurprisingly and perfectly fitting of every single accusation that has been levied so far against them and their abusive practices, the last moderator to interact with me was @[email protected].
I find it fucking hysterical how the mods over there are so vehemently Anti-Trump (and should be given the userbase and content) but act no better than someone in his administration.
Edit: I found the post about it being NSFW after going through Moss’ profile but unsurprisingly Moss had to go ahead and suppress my comment there as well. It’s remarkable how much of their profile is just whining about being treated unfairly while they’re going ahead and treating people unfairly. But of course, Moss (being a redditor) had to go ahead and downvote before the removal of the post. Fragile… jesus.
As for how I feel it should be remedied, Moss should step down or at least be removed as a mod on Lemmy.world. They’ve done nothing for the community that hasn’t been insanely divisive as of late. They seem to be remarkably tonedeaf and just openly abusing their position.
Update
@[email protected] went to the community and straight up asked why I was banned. For the record I didn’t ask for this or anything and was completely blindsided when I got a notification in my inbox. But a mod over there did respond with this:
So I’m unbanned from the community because a mod could find no reason that made sense why I was banned.
Tell me how that doesn’t unilaterally prove that Moss was indeed just banning people over petty ass reasons?
Ironic, considering 196 moving to LW was because Ada is a power tripping admin. I was interacting with Moss after getting banned on Blahaj, and they just… Went silent. Then about a week later, they moved the community. I honestly don’t think they’re an asshole, but I get the feeling the dude doesn’t know how to effectively moderate or talk to community members.
FWIW this is the exact reason I joined the mod team, and Qaz has been doing a good job with calling her out when it happens too.
She seems to have been logged out of Discord for a while now, so there’s not much we can do in terms of holding her feet to the fire. But rest assured we are trying to do something about it.
I’m going to be real, that is the least assuring thing I’ve ever heard. That mods need to hold the lead mods ‘feet to the fire’ and that there’s ‘not much they can do about it’.
/c/[email protected] is far more screwed than I thought it was.
You misread the part you quoted. There is a lot we can do about her mod actions. Even though she’s the lead mod, we can undo her actions.
What there isn’t much we can do about is holding her feet to the fire. It’s hard to do that to someone who isn’t present :p
Fair, I did misread that.
However.
It’s still not a good look that the moderation team is having to clean up the mess of the lead moderator… Moreover, this shit was left sitting until I made this post. Kolankis was left sitting until they brought theirs up. So clearly theres a lot that is slipping through the cracks with people who get hit with this and are just stuck with it indefinitely. Honestly, it’s way worse than if it was just a shitty moderator team across the board because in this case you’ve got good mods who want to do good who are being actively hampered by someone else who is undoing all of that goodwill. And a community where people can genuinely be left in a state of not sure what is going to happen to them that day and if it’ll be undone the next.
I’m sorry that you’ve gotta go through that. I wish you the best of luck with it all, though.
That’s totally valid. I’ll have to start checking the modlog every once and a while when I’m on.
We do have a group email and a matrix chat for this kind of thing, but tbf it’s not linked anywhere where an unjustly banned user would think to look… I’ll see about putting it somewhere more obvious in case this kind of thing keeps happening. (Y’all can also DM us. I think Qaz and I are the most active but Peachy is also reliable)
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I don’t know a single thing about the move other than the fact that it was completely left field and offered zero proof of power tripping at the time. It was just Moss saying “Trust us”. No screenshots or detailed conversations or anything. Felt like a hollow accusation at the time. I’ve still not seen proof of Ada being a power tripper. Then again, I haven’t been looking for it.
Edit: Oh you are playing with fire today, huh?
They got mad at Ada for simply going through the mod queue when it would pile up and they didn’t enjoy her enforcing rules for the instance.
They got mad at Ada for banning people because they wouldn’t treat trolls with respect.
How dare they not treat trolls with respect?
Idk why you have such a hate boner for blahaj/ada
Power tripping admins turned me off it
*admin not admins.
Pretty sure the place is better now
If the abusive admin still has permissions then it’s just a matter of time.
I’m done giving 2nd chances to these kinds of communities. Ive aeen these bad policies fragment and kill too many lgbtq spaces on the internet to participate in it this time.
Replace admins by mods and you have the situation that lead to the whole !196 failed migration
We did offer examples. With screenshots. One of which was in the pinned post, and the ban was against the person you’re replying to.
Huh. I clearly missed that. That being said, was it in that first post where Moss (or whoever it was that posted it) said that the move was being made? Because all I remember from that was just saying admin disagreements and trust us. This post I was responding to looks like it came after the post announcing the move.
I don’t remember what was in the post about the move tbh. Moss wrote that one. If she didn’t put anything concrete in there, that was definitely a blunder lol.
But tbf anyone can check Ada’s modlog.
They unbanned you! \o/
Oh I have zero interest in ever engaging there again, but that is good to know. The reaction from qaz is telling too. If another moderator can’t even find a reason then Moss must have just done it out of pure spite.
Probably worth editing the title with “Unbanned” or something just to set the record straight.
The title is:
The title is still accurate. I should just edit it to remove the S from the ‘mods’ (which I now have). But adding unbanned doesn’t matter. The point was a specific mod is powertripping. The being unbanned just adds more proof to that.
Fair
<3 Sorry if that came off bitchy
It’s okay, really!
I only know more because I was part of the ban wave on Blahaj that set off the whole thing and was apparently the only one to reach out to the mods (I thought I was just banned from 196, not the whole instance).
I guess you’re not instance banned anymore. I can see you.
I had to change instances because Yiffit shut down. This account isn’t banned.
I don’t think instance banning stops you from seeing posts from that user on other instances. (YPTB is on dbzer0)
It does if you’re a member of that instance. The instance the person is banned from will bounce all federation requests from the banned person.
Huh. TIL.
Here’s a good example. You can obviously see my profile on your instance. But if you go to Startrek.website and check my profile (which you can do by clicking this link) you’ll notice that it says my last post was a year ago. That’s when they banned me from their instance. None of my content can be seen on their shitty little fascist site anymore. Doesn’t mean that people like ValueSubtracted and Corgana won’t see this. Their narcissism is strong and they’ll inevitably search their names, find this post and report everything on here. If they already haven’t. Pathetic children.
I remember that whole thing, so it was a trip reading your comments. I think that was the first time I ever reached out to you and sent a message, because that was a. Lot. Those folks are just… bonkers. I moved to lemmy.world in part because of how welcoming they were to you.
And then moved here because of how lemmy.world handled the Luigi thing, but that’s the beauty of the fediverse! I’ll keep moving until I don’t have to, or until I die, let’s see what comes first!
Interesting. I would’ve assumed it’d cut a user off from communicating with members of an instance completely, similar to defederation but targeted at a specific user.
Anyway, it’s a moot point, they’re using a new account.