Just wish there were more transparency around counts and content engagement.

I firmly believe most influencer these day were propped up with payed views and botted engagement. Not that lemmy is the same but it all feels so dirty.

  • Stamets
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    I’m not sure what you’re referring to here.

    If you mean like to see who upvoted and who downvoted you, you can actually see that on Mbin. It’s a Lemmy fork that allows you to see exactly who upvoted and downvoted your comments or posts. Lemmy just didn’t add that function itself.

    If you mean a Karma total, because it just harbors a competition. If people are posting just to get their number higher then they don’t care about the community or engagement. They just want a bigger number on their account. I don’t post a fuckload because I want Karma, I post a fuckload because I like lemmy and wanna give it some content because I have saved content.

    • missingno
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      Mbin shows who upvoted, but it does not show who downvoted. Kbin used to show both, but there are no active Kbin servers anymore.

      • Zerlyna
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        I was just thinking about kbin. It died? I signed up long ago but didn’t really use it.

    • @ClinicallydepressedpoochieOP
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      First, I wasn’t talking karma count, I think that is toxic.

      To answer the rest, I guess I would like to have the option of seeing who voted native to the main site.

      I don’t like downloading apps or installing plugins.

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        Mbin is not an app or a plugin. It is a fork which means that it took the basecode of Lemmy and repurposed it into something else. Some instances have then used Mbin, like fedia.io. It just happens to be that lemmy.world doesn’t include that function because it uses Lemmy as its base and not Mbin.

        Mbin is able to completely interact with Lemmy, mind you, so it’s not seperate in anyway other than how it works.

        • ProdigalFrog
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          Mbin is a fork of Kbin, a different independent project, not Lemmy.

          • Stamets
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            My mistake, you’re right.

        • @ClinicallydepressedpoochieOP
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          So, you’re saying I have to change my instance? Which would be fine and I am already debating just that.

          • Stamets
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            If you want to see who specifically upvoted or downvoted, then yes. If you want the general numbers you can stay here.

            Personally I’ve never understood the obsession with seeing who votes for you. I post constantly and have people who follow me about downvoting me everywhere. If I was checking who was downvoting me all the time, I’d never get shit done.

            • @hypna
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              I don’t see the interest in who voted what on my stuff, but it could be interesting to do some analysis of system-wide voting behaviors. The bigger Lemmy gets the more of a problem it’s going to have with bots. People will need to create tools to identify these bots, and voting behavior seems like the primary data source.

          • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮
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            Because they see it as voting. Voting is anonymous IRL, they want it to be online, too. Even though what people are generally voting for online is whether or not they think the poster is an asshole. 🤷🏻‍♂️

            But also, afaik, it is visible, if you’re an instance admin. Thought about making my own instance just to see who the 1 dude that downvotes everything I post (sometimes milliseconds after posting) is and see why they’re so butthurt.