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Summary
Donald Trump signed an executive order prioritizing U.S. resettlement of white South African Afrikaners, claiming they face “government-sponsored race-based discrimination.”
The order also halts U.S. aid to South Africa, much of which supports AIDS programs.
Trump accused the South African government of land seizures and discriminatory policies, though officials deny these claims.
The move marks a reversal of Trump’s prior refugee restrictions and is seen as aligning with right-wing narratives on South Africa.
Elon Musk, a clearly Nazi leaning former South African, is in charge of the gubmnt, and now resettlement of Afrikaners becomes a priority?
It’s pretty clear who is running this government.
Elon Musk is not an Afrikaner, so what’s your point?
I want to understand what you mean. Are you claiming that his native language is probably English and not Afrikaans so he is not Afrikaner? Or are you saying he isn’t a white man born in South Africa of European decent?
If you really want to understand what he’s saying I suggest you read up on South African history. Or go the easier route and listen to the podcast “History of South Africa” by Des Latham which you can find, for example, on Spotify. Your line of questioning and the downvotes on that comment are a display of ignorance. It was simply a statement of facts, no questioning of Elon being an incarnate turd.
Yeah that’s why I was trying to ask objective questions to ensure I understood what qualifiers exist and what doesnt fall into them. My feelings towards Musk don’t depict what I think of other South Africans. That would just be cruel.
I read your comment as snarky and sly. Sorry if I misinterpreted it.
Why did you bother posting this worthless comment?
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That’s exactly what I’m saying. His father is English South African and his mother Canadian. He also went to an English school. He’s not Afrikaans and therefore not an Afrikaner, so I doubt he cares about Afrikaners at all.
Alright, so the primary language being English is the qualifier to depict whether or not they are classified as a Afrikaner. In the order Trump made does it specify English speaking won’t get preferential immigration status? I would probably need to read the text to be able to depict who gets preferential treatment or not. It would have to be fairly detailed to omit those born of European descent but not primary speaking a set language. The whole thing seems very segregationalist to start. How would it not be seen as racist to his supporters that say DEI is racist to give preferential treatment based on similar qualifiers?
I don’t know what specifically Trump wants, I’m just going off of the linked article which mentions Afrikaners as well as the comment I replied to which made a strange correlation between Elon Musk and a demographic group that he is not even part of.
The reason Afrikaners are specifically targeted in these discussions is because apartheid was led by an Afrikaner government. So a lot of the conflict between the black people and white people in South Africa specifically revolves around the Afrikaners. The English South Africas, which form a smaller group than the Afrikaner population, is kind of just stuck in the crossfire. After the fall of apartheid, the new black government adopted laws, referred to as the Black Economic Empowerment laws, which I guess acts a bit like the USA’s DEI laws that aim to provide what they refer to as “previously disadvantaged” groups with more opportunities. It is specifically these laws that Elon is referring to, but in the context of the recently passed Land ExpropriationAct, which in my opinion is not yet fully understood by everyone and what exactly it allows the government to do.
Also just a side note, while language is a key identifier, the Afrikaner demographic is more than just the language. It’s a whole group of people who originally started in the Cape from mostly Dutch settlers, who then later moved throughout the rest of South Africa. There were also wars between the Afrikaners and English, such as the Second Boer War, so there’s been a long history of conflict. That’s why I wanted to emphasize that you cannot necessarily put Elon Musk on the side of the Afrikaners, despite him being white and born in South Africa.
Thanks for the response, I remember reading about the second Boer War but it has been a long time. I appreciate you being willing to discuss the topic levely even though people were casting downvotes without fully hearing what you were trying to point out. It may be because the first message was brief and didn’t contain the further extrapolation you have now provided. I look forward to learning more as this plays out.