I just searched “nazi salute” on r/conservative… and its just such insane denialism…

Like, what if musk just do the “Heil H**ler” too?

I wonder what excuses they’ll make then?

🤔

Fake News?

Deepfake?

🤣

r/conservative should be renamed to r/neonazi

  • @DreamlandLividity
    1•3 days ago

    Just asking questions (also known as JAQing off, or as emojis: “🤔🤔🤔”[1]) is a way of attempting to make wild accusations acceptable (and hopefully not legally actionable) by framing them as questions rather than statements. It shifts the burden of proof to one’s opponent; rather than laboriously having to prove that all politicians are reptoid scum, one can pull out one single odd piece of evidence and force the opponent to explain why the evidence is wrong.

    Which one fits this definition better? The original post that takes one single odd piece of evidence in the form of Musks controversial “Nazi salute” and asks questions about whether r/conservatives would support overt Nazism and even abandons the facade and answers its own questions by saying we should rename the subreddit?

    Or my comment that is very clearly hypothetical and primarily intended to make fun of the original post (since I did not know the term “JAQing off” and I find it more fun to create a comment people either have to think about or hypocritically criticize for the thing they are doing themselves, instead of being a nerd and linking to obscure wikis about argumentation).

    You are projecting my dude 🤣

    • haui
      1•3 days ago

      Yours, obviously. Conservatism is the political „right“ wing. Fascists are the „extreme right wing“.

      Asking if a very close relative to fascism is going to do mental gymnastics to somehow normalize even more fascism is neither new nor is it controversial. Thats how it went for more than a hundred years.

      Then trying to steer the discussion towards the US democrats (still right wing from an objective position) is not only unproductive, it is obvious trolling.

      What I dont understand is that your other posts dont seem to fit a classic fascist troll so I suppose its either a misunderstanding, a pedantic trigger or the account was hacked.

      • @DreamlandLividity
        1•3 days ago

        Asking if a very close relative to fascism is going to do mental gymnastics to somehow normalize even more fascism is neither new nor is it controversial.

        I genuinely wonder what kind of echo chamber you would have to live in to think saying “normal right wing ideology is very close relative to fascism” is not controversial.

        Then trying to steer the discussion towards the US democrats (still right wing from an objective position) is not only unproductive, it is obvious trolling.

        I am not trying to steer the discussion. It is Satire. Showing people how stupid the argument is by applying the exact same logic the post uses to their own favourite party to make them think of the counterarguments on their own.

        • haui
          0•3 days ago

          So it is untrue that a large percentage of the conservative parties worldwide are rightwing extremists? It is not true that fascism by definition shares large parts of its ideas with conservative parties? It is for example not true that a large portion of the german fascist party consists of former right wing party members?

          I think we both know where this ends my friend. Your mental gymnastics are insufficient and I‘m no longer willing to provide a platform to your fascist propaganda.

          We are more.